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[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 94 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

*bad Devs

Or devs who don't give a shit. Most places have a lot of people who don't give a shit because the company does not give a shit about them either.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 40 points 7 months ago (2 children)

What's the diff between a bad dev and a dev that doesn't care? Either way, whether ist lack of skill or care, a bad dev is a bad dev at the end of the day.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I can be good at a trade, but if I'm working for a shit company with shit pay and shit treatment, they're not going to get my best work.

You get out what you put in, that's something employers don't realise.

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Nah they realize but all the laws are set to fuck us over not them. They just don’t care.

[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Garbage in, garbage out, after all

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The difference is whether the fault for the leak of your personal data rests with the worker who was incompetent, or the employer who didn't pay for proper secure software.

[–] Kissaki@feddit.de 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I say fault lies not with only one, but both.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 8 points 7 months ago

Depends on the case TBH. If devs barely have time and are constantly crunching due to mismanagement, or are extremely disengaged due to mismanagement, I wouldn't fault them.

Usually it's the lacking processes, though. There are ways to make sure this doesn't happen, and it doesn't depend on the individual, but always the organization.

[–] jackalope@lemmy.ml -5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A good dev would unionize their workplace and push back. A dev who doesn't care and just clocks on bad work because their boss sucks is not a good dev. Fight back.

[–] gaael@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah sure, because everyone has the skills, time, energy and safety required to unionize a shitty workplace they only go to to be able to pay their rent.

[–] jackalope@lemmy.ml -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Dev jobs are not hard to come by and they pay very well. It's not like being a day laborer or something where we are scraping the bottom of the barrel. Have a little courage.

[–] gaael@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Looks like your mind is set. I wish you a good day and I hope you pick up a little more empathy along your way, and I hope some day you'll get that a lot of people feel trapped where they are.