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[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

No. The lack of variety in options is honestly astonishing. I'm looking for a cheap zigbee button that is wall powered. They don't really seem to exist. Who the fuck wants to be constantly replacing batteries in smart things? Probably the same people who don't want wires running everywhere, but their priorities are in the wrong place imo.

I'm also kinda shocked that a product doesn't exist that's just a AA or AAA fake battery with wires hanging off of it that you could plug into the wall. Probably a safety hazard or something.

[–] realharo@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The battery life of a typical switch can easily be like 5 years though.

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Still something I'd have to think about in 5 years. Also, if I use rechargeables, which I would, it'll potentially be less.

I don't want to have to think about it. Ever.

Also, if you have a bunch of switches in your house, even at 5 years you could be replacing batteries in one switch or another every few months.

At 10 battery operated smart things in the house, thats - on average - swapping batteries every 6 months. As you add more smart things, that frequency goes up. I don't want to be doing that, ever.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

One of the first automations I installed in my Home Assistant, was a community contribution to show a table of devices by battery level, and alert when low. You shouldn’t have to think about replacing the batteries.

Of course, I immediately found out the remote sensors for my Ecobee don’t seem to report battery level …. Or maybe the integration is incomplete: my thermostat also doesn’t report battery level but was able to notify when low

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Installing an automation and checking battery level manually, or even having an automation tell me to replace the batteries in devices means I'm thinking about it... Not to mention that I still have to replace the batteries which, shockingly, involved thinking about replacing the batteries.

[–] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Your wall outlet is AC but a battery is DC, so a pure wire setup is not so much a safety thing as it is just incompatible. A good fire starter.

So you'll have to convert it, which makes for a big, bulky plug.

On top of that, you'll need prior knowledge of the battery layout, including whether they're parallel or serial. Usually parallel, but not a guarantee.

All of this isn't insurmountable, but is enough to make it not the norm. They do, in fact, already exist

[–] HaywardT@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 7 months ago

That's awesome. I will order one now for my wireless mouse.

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Holy crap, I'll be purchasing that ASAP, guess I just wasn't able to find them, thank you!

And yes, I was aware that simply wiring the device directly into the wall wouldn't work.

[–] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There are better ones out there, that one in particular had some iffy reviews about voltages, but yeah they definitely exist.

I usually see them labeled as "power supply adapter for [AA,AAA,etc]".

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I'll have to do some research... Wild that I wasn't able to find them previously.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Some standard wall switches can also do multiple functions and may work for yours.

For example, I’m a fan of Innovelli switches where you can configure actions like double-clicks and more, to act as a “Zigbee button”

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

I can't replace the wall switches, as I'm renting a manufactured home, which has some really wackily wired light switches, likely to save money. If I owned a home I'd definitely install some smart switches and utilize those.