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Roku has patented a way to show ads over anything you plug into your TV (arstechnica.com)

submitted 7 months ago by ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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A patent application from the company spotted by Lowpass describes a system for displaying ads over any device connected over HDMI, a list that could include cable boxes, game consoles, DVD or Blu-ray players, PCs, or even other video streaming devices. Roku filed for the patent in August 2023 and it was published in November 2023, though it hasn't yet been granted.

The technology described would detect whether content was paused in multiple ways—if the video being displayed is static, if there's no audio being played, if a pause symbol is shown anywhere on screen, or if (on a TV with HDMI-CEC enabled) a pause signal has been received from some passthrough remote control. The system would analyze the paused image and use metadata "to identify one or more objects" in the video frame, transmit that identification information to a network, and receive and display a "relevant ad" over top of whatever the paused content is.

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[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

They did! Its called a pihole plus ublock origin plus piracy.

You can't buy it, only the hardware, but the software is all free.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Still doesnt block youtube ads 😩

[–] naitro@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago (3 children)

For ad-free youtube on Android TV: SmartTube

For ad-free youtube on mobile Android devices: ReVanced

For desktop: Firefox + uBlock origin

[–] onion@feddit.de 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Also for Android: NewPipe
Also for desktop: FreeTube

[–] dmtalon@infosec.pub 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Or GrayJay for Android

[–] d4rko@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Or Tubular

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Ad free YouTube on RokuOS? TIZEN?

Ad free YouTube on iOS?

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml -2 points 7 months ago

Sadly, Firefox + ublock is becoming unreliable. I routinely can’t play YouTube videos on my desktop computer with that setup (+ a vpn) because google just won’t serve them. I just get perpetual loading screens.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Are you... Are you using the yt APP!?

[–] Steve@startrek.website 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Roku TV 😞

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

Oh. Oh no. Do you need a hug? A hammer?

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

So if you can side load check out smart tube app

[–] dm_me_your_boobs@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

Revanced only, bby!

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You can't defend against ads with pihole if the ads server has the same address as content server

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is true. Hence the piracy. Only way to go ad free.

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

But with the risk of malware infection, unfortunately.

When something is free, you're the product.

I'd advise to continue to use non-pirated products, but only from those companies, whose service you're satisfied with.
And if there's none, don't consume product at all. It's not like movies are vital for you.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Vlc is pretty good, and I run a pretty strange distro. If I'm extra scared, I'll use qubes or get a sacrifice machine.

I think the poor having culture is important. Either art is important, or it Fucking isn't. You seem to be arguing its the frivolity, not the substance and fruit of civilization.

Video isnt my favorite medium, I have a lot of criticisms of it, but its still art, still precious. And so everyone deserves to have it.

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And so everyone deserves to have it.

And authors along with those, who maintain content distributing infrastructure, deserve to be rewarded for their labour.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But I can't pay them. Its not generally an option. Have you seen the terms on their Fucking contracts?

Literally the closest I can get is wandering around Los Angeles giving money to people who look vaguely familiar or give off writerly vibes.

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

But I can't pay them.

Then don't consume the product. It's entertainment, not vital goods.

By the way, where do their salaries come from, in your opinion?

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Okay but then noone should. Theres no way to give money to the people who made this shit. I'm not saying I'm poor, I'm saying there is no vector by which I could.

And I just said why I'm gonna, and why I'm gonna give more away to everyone else. I'm gonna buy extra tools to do that, just to spite your classist 'the poor should have no culture' bullshit.

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Theres no way to give money to the people who made this shit.

But there is. Part of the money you pay distributors goes to the creators.

And by the way: distributors not just "speculate on digital goods" or whatever you seem to imply. They distribute. That means they make goods available through the internet in a convenient way.

Servers won't pay for themselves.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wait were you calling amazon video Hulu and Netflix convenient? Are you an ad fetishist? Is the best part of a movie figuring out where and how to watch it? I can't understand another way to believe this.

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

More convenient for me, than torrents: because I watch content either on TV or on phone.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I have vlc on my phone. Toss an sdcard in yhere, movies for days (more if i rewatch or dont watch while sleeping).

Dunno about TVs but last time I saw someone use one's native software it looked like hell to use.

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Samsung and LG are pretty good

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Typing with a god damn remote. No thanks.

Or a phone app that's gonna break like two years after purchase and snitches on everything.

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

You can connect a Bluetooth keyboard to it.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

part of the money you pay to the owners

Lol no it doesn't. I saw the contracts the AFL-CIA pushed on the workers, and I know being good bought or beloved doesn't get people hired again because the shit heads who do get the money send it on cocaine and child slaves and private jets and the worst possible decisions with the capital and IP dipshits like you give them.

I don't get my films from Netflix. I torrent them; distribution is a community effort!

Don't worry; I give back, keep my seed ratio high, never shut off a torrent until its at least 3:1 etc.

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Where do you think creators salaries come from?

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Starbucks, maybe olive garden. Same as always. I can't change that.