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Big Tech passkey implementations are a trap | Proton (proton.me)

submitted 7 months ago by AnActOfCreation@programming.dev to c/technology@lemmy.world

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Big Tech has implemented passkeys in a way that locks users into their platforms rather than providing universal security
Passkeys were developed to replace passwords for better account security, but their rollout by Apple and Google has limited their potential
Proton Pass offers passkeys that are universal, easy to use, and available to everyone for improved online security and privacy.

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[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 46 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If I can't add your passkey to my local KeepassXC database, I am not using your passkey.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (3 children)

You can also host it yourself.

https://bitwarden.com/blog/host-your-own-open-source-password-manager/

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yea, I know. But my preference is for my password manager to not be cloud at all.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I don’t mean to be pedantic but self hosted isn’t cloud.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't it require cloud activation?

[–] capital@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

It requires a key and id they generate.

https://bitwarden.com/help/install-on-premise-linux/

Though from the instructions, I’m not sure if the install needs continuing communication outbound to function.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yea, I understand, and it's a perfectly valid choice. But does that disregard people's preference to not bother with this at all?

[–] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don’t think I understand the question.

To be clear, the alternatives are valid choices.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 points 7 months ago

That was a rhetorical question. What I wanted to say was basically "if it is only supported by Big Tech walled gardens and some open, selfhostable cloud password managers, I am not using such passkeys, because for me it is far more comfortable to have my password manager fully offline".

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Eh, easier to just use the same password for everything.

I use 12345, personally.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Huh.. same as my luggage.