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[–] TheOneAndOnly@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's simple... If you convince the communists that the capitalists are trying to destroy them, (and vice versa), they fight each other, distracting them from the real enemy: the 1% with enough money to directly influence the folk that make the rules that keep them in the 1% club. We're fighting culture wars so we won't fight class wars, my friend.

[–] darq@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

... capitalism is the ideology that lets the 1% be the 1%.

This is like the one fight that isn't part of the culture war.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No the 1% definitely exists in communism.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago

How can a stateless, classless, moneyless society have a 1%?

[–] TheOneAndOnly@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The 1% exist in every form of government, my friend. Billionaire capitalists == Russian Oligarchs. The name changes based on the audience, but the idea is money influences politics. The folk with the most money to do so are the 1% who actually rule, not the interchangeable talking heads who take their money to live a comfortable life acting as the mouthpiece (or scapegoat) for that group.

[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

...do you think Russia is still Socialist? The Russian oligarchs are Billionaire Capitalists.

The USSR collapsed in the 90s, buddy.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The 1% are the Capitalist and they are trying to defeat the Communists and surpress/continue to exploit the Prolitariat with every tool at their vast disposal. The folks in the comments defending Capitalism are all members of the Prolitariat brainwashed into thinking they are down on their luck Millionaires.

[–] TheOneAndOnly@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look... It's all tribalism, in the end. We can argue semantics, but doing so it's exactly their point. It keeps us busy with pedantry, while they continue to enjoy their wealth from on high. I am not educated enough to debate the pros and cons of each group, but I am intelligent enough to smell an attempt to distract me from the point. To know there's some sleight of hand fuckery happening right in front of my face.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes you are intelligent, and so close to getting it, the cultural warfare bullshit is all a distraction to keep you from noticing the class warfare being waged against the working class by the 1% who continues to rob value from us to horde weath far beyond our comprehension. I cant recommend Marx's writings enough, there is so much slight of hand fuxkery going on and it SHOULD rightfully piss you off!

[–] TheOneAndOnly@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Help me understand how I'm close in what I'm saying, my friend. It feels like we're saying exactly the same thing.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you want to fight a class war, you're a communist

[–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] irmoz@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What ideology is it, again, that champions working class people to take their power back? It's certainly not right wing.

If you think the world is fucked because of the greed of the 1%, and you want those people to pay for their crimes through class war, you're communist.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

What ideology is it, again, that champions working class people to take their power back?

That sounds like a free market to me. When people have the power to determine their own fate, and how they engage with others for economic coordination.

When everyone has the ability to choose how they engage, that’s called a free market. The economic system based on free markets is called capitalism.