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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

If you're monitoring the traffic, and you start speaking, and you suddenly see packets spewing out of a device every time you talk, that's a good indication. There's indirect methods to analyze it without necessarily being able to see the actual data.

Poking around the PCB with an oscilloscope to see electrical signals will probably be useful too.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

If you’re monitoring the traffic, and you start speaking, and you suddenly see pac6kers spewing out of a device every time you talk, that’s a good indication. There’s indirect methods to analyze it without necessarily being able to see the actual data.

Its already established that the mic always hot, and that data is always being sent to the server.

What they do with the data is not seeable by us. That is the point being discussed, do they listen in to conversations and market off of that data to us.

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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Its already established that the mic always hot, and that data is always being sent to the server.

Tell me, how have you established this? What were your methods?

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Its already established that the mic always hot, and that data is always being sent to the server.

Tell me, how have you established this? What were your methods?

By calling out for the Google assist, without having pushed any button first. It's always listening for the activate/initiate key phrase.

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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That doesn't mean it's sending anything out through the network connection. The wake word is locally processed.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

That doesn’t mean it’s sending anything out through the network connection. The wake word is locally processed.

Doesn't mean it's not, either.

This old article from Vice seems to have proven it, back in 2018.

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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

This entire article is full of absolutely nothing but speculation with no sources and poor experimentation without proper knowledge in the field, software, or equipment. No technical analysis at all. This person kind of has no clue and is taking ignorant shots in the dark to try to confirm preexisting notions. The "experiment" they ran sounds like something my mother would do and then get all bent out of shape and frantically call me about it.

I want the 5 minutes back I wasted reading that.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I want the 5 minutes back I wasted reading that.

All of your hyperbole aside, if you're worried about time wasted, you really shouldn't be on the Internet.

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