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[–] optissima@lemmy.world 58 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Imagine claiming mining helium is the solution when free energy is right there radiating from the sun.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 40 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Imagine thinking there's only one solution.

[–] credo@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Starting an international corporate race to carve up the moon seems like a good choice.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social -1 points 6 months ago

That obviously being the only other choice, of course.

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Maybe with automated gathering and launched via mass launcher directly into earths athmosphere, it could be somewhat cost-competitive

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Straw-man and False dichotomy.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They literally made an either or declaration of their own...

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No a better alternative was pointed out, that does not exclude that others may also exist.

[–] 3volver@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How do you suggest producing a significant amount of thrust in a vacuum using the sun?

[–] optissima@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Though, of course, simple scientific curiosity may not justify the enormous cost of the undertaking. That’s where commercial interest comes in.

That's not what this is about, the author doesn't care about that, all they see is a finite, exploitable resource that will line their pockets.

However, to answer your question, we already have that technology.

[–] 3volver@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Solar sails don't produce a significant amount of thrust, you didn't answer my question.

[–] optissima@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nuclear, or if you want space stuff, build a station at the Lagrange point and sling from there? I don't need to be an expert in launch solutions to know that we shouldn't speculate mining the moon till it's well researched and that we have more accessible options here for the forseeable future with solar as my choice of example, so let's not jump the gun on another finite resource?

[–] 3volver@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You can't launch a rocket using solar. Nuclear is exactly what helium-3 will provide. Speculation is the first step of exploiting the Moon's value.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium-3#Nuclear_fuel

Do your research before acting like you know what you're writing about. There are so many things to complain about when it comes to capitalism, this is not one of them.

[–] optissima@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I am referring to commercial speculation, and I literally laid this out in the second sentence, thanks!

[–] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Can a solar sail propel an object to relativistic speeds? The whole point of space travel is to go to other planets at a speed fast enough that the people going there will not be dead or elderly by the time they reach their destination. The only way to do that is by achieving light speed or damn near it. I do not want to board a solar sail vessel bound for Proxima Centauri b (4.22ly) and be dust by the time I get there.