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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So if I own a cafe

More if you own Ticketmaster, and you decide you're going to freeze out a particular artist from every venue you contact with.

And yes. Absolutely censorship.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Changing the scenario doesn't answer my question.

I came up with a scenario directly related to your previous post.

I can only imagine you are changing the scenario because you realize what I said makes what you said seem unreasonable.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Changing the scenario doesn’t answer my question.

Then why did you change the scenario?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I didn't. I responded to your comment:

This just means privatizing public spaces becomes a method of censorship. Forcing competitors farther and farther away from your captured audience, by enclosing and shutting down the public media venues, functions as a de facto media monopoly.

Generally speaking, you don’t want a single individual with the administrative power to dictate everything anyone else sees or hears.

My comment was:

So if I own a cafe and I have an open mic night and some guy gets up yelling racial epithets and Nazi slogans, it’s their right to be heard in my cafe and I am just censoring them by kicking them out?

As the one with the administrative power, should I put it up to a vote?

Now, are you going to answer my questions or are we just going to end the conversation here?

[–] MentalGymnastics@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Your open mic night hypothetical is not a shadow ban. That's just a normal ban. Which is I think what people are asking for. If these social media companies are going to censor us on the Internet we essentially built via govt subsidies hell we even essentially build these companies by giving straight to them gov't subsidies then fuck yea notify us that we are actively being censored.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

True, but they were talking about censorship, not shadow banning.