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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I thought the Italians were looked down on. In the US anyway.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 62 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Over here, we look down on Americans instead.

[–] jnk@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Imagine drinking american coffee over italian coffee 🤌🤌

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

That's a long way to look!

[–] blargerer@kbin.social 32 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No? Look there are weird racists for everything, but generally Italian and Irish racism is like 100 years out of fashion.

[–] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I’d say more like 50? Maybe less? Don’t forget many Italians were automatically assumed to be in a gang (Mafia) and profiled heavily even into the 90s. The Irish outside certain pockets were more or less the same.

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Are you suggesting some Americans are ignorant bigots...?

[–] RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

I've recently had a Canadian on VRChat call me a "scammer of golden pussy" or something after reading i was Italian in my bio. He first said i was poor due to my country's economy(who in their right mind berates people due to the economy), then decided that i had to be scamming people to live. Still salty cuz i didn't report this bitch.

[–] pumpkinseedoil@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

If you want to experience being looked down on go to South Tyrol and speak Italian

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

go to South Tyrol and only speak Italian

To be fair, that would probably just be considered rude in a multilingual and multicultural region like that 🤷

[–] pumpkinseedoil@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago

Especially when the multilingualism and multiculturalism is only a result of fascist projects like making Italians move there, making the local language illegal, forcing everyone to learn the new ruler's language, teaching different history in school (that South Tyrol had actually been a part of Italy that they "finally gained back" in WW1)... Fascism doing fascism things. Mussolini even made people create Italian names for places that never had an Italian name just so they can Italianize it (and to this day in English people usually use those Italian names).

South Tyrol hasn't had as many rights as today until the 70s (so ~30 years after Italian fascism ended) which is why many South Tyroleans still are very hostile towards Italians, having experienced Italian suppression themselves. And they only gained those rights after excessive protests (including violence and blowing things up).

tl;Dr Explanation for my previous comment, why it's often not a good idea to speak Italian in South Tyrol

(Especially in the less-Italianized regions; there are a few areas that they successfully Italianized - German speaking population went from nearly 100% before the end of WW1 (and a few percent ladinian) to just a bit over 70% today thanks to decades of suppression under Italian fascism.)