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Robot cars can be crashed with tinfoil and painted cardboard (www.theregister.com)

submitted 5 months ago by sverit@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.world

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A team of researchers from prominent universities – including SUNY Buffalo, Iowa State, UNC Charlotte, and Purdue – were able to turn an autonomous vehicle (AV) operated on the open sourced Apollo driving platform from Chinese web giant Baidu into a deadly weapon by tricking its multi-sensor fusion system, and suggest the attack could be applied to other self-driving cars.

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[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 21 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Because humans have more accountability. Also it has implications for military/police use of self-guided stuff.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 0 points 5 months ago (6 children)

What is the purpose of accountability other than to force people to do better? If the lack of accountability doesn't stop a computer from outperforming a human, why worry about it?

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

The lack of accountability means that there is nothing and no one to take responsibility when the robot/computer inevitably kills someone. A human can be faced with legal ramifications for their actions, the companies that make these computers have shown thus far that they are exempt from such consequences.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

That is simply not true. The law since basically forever had held that manufacturers are liable if their product malfunctions and hurts someone when it's being operated in accordance with their instructions.

Edit: I hope all y'all who think the rule of law doesn't exist are gonna vote against the felony party.

[–] Kanzar@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

Excuse us for being sceptical that businesses will actually be held accountable. We know legally they are, but will forced arbitration or delayed court proceedings mean people too poor to afford a good lawyer for long will have to fuck off?

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 4 points 5 months ago

The current court cases show that the manufacturers are trying to fob off responsibility onto the owners of the vehicles by way of TOS agreements with lots of fine print and Tesla in particular is getting slammed for false advertising about the capabilities of their self-driving features while they simultaneously try to force all legal liability onto the drivers that believed their advertising.

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