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https://mullvad.net/en/help/install-mullvad-app-linux

Trying to install VPN and these are the instructions Mullvad is giving me. This is ridiculous. There must be a more simple way. I know how to follow the instructions but I have no idea what I'm doing here. Can't I just download a file and install it? I'm on Ubuntu.

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[–] hottari@lemmy.ml -5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yes and with good reason. To prevent people like yourself from downloading and running malware.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Horseshit. Why do people endlessly promote Linux only to turn around and express smugness, gatekeeping, and hostility to new users?

You're not even correct. The Everything as a file philosophy isn't an antivirus program. Like it's impossible to get malware by blindly pasting script into a terminal.

This attitude is a bigger obstacle to adoption than games compatibility.

[–] hottari@lemmy.ml -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
  1. Am not promoting Linux, I don't know where you got that idea from.
  2. How is it hostility when am letting OP know that's exactly what's included in the package when he chose Linux? And that unlike Windows where you install downloaded files as programs, things work differently over here?
  3. You can install malware by blindly copypasting commands on any terminal, the OS doesn't matter.
[–] HuntressHimbo@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because you chose to phrase it as an insult. "To keep people like you from doing X" has a very different connotation than "this is a security feature that helps protect inexperienced users from malware." One is helpful, one is demeaning.

[–] hottari@lemmy.ml -4 points 10 months ago

You are reading too much into the comment.

[–] Critical_Insight@feddit.uk 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Is malware specifically a problem on Linux then?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Specifically, no. Far less malware on Linux. But it's still a computer system that can execute code.

[–] vikingtons@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

It's a problem anywhere, centralised software repositories help combat it to a degree.

[–] HuntressHimbo@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Malware sadly is a problem everywhere, but it is arguably less so on Linux. First, Linux is less popular so less malware is written for it to some degree. That doesn't mean no malware, but if you're trying to pwn people hitting a website you'll get more targetting windows, android, or iOS than Linux so it's a little less prevalent.

Second, it could be argued the security model of Linux is more secure than windows. This is a far more contentious point, but I think that simply from having more eyes on the code Linux has a more secure model. Windows relies on security through obscurity a great deal, and if you talk to cybersecurity experts they will often tell you this is no security at all.

Lastly, because software on Linux is typically installed through centralized repositories of binaries or sandboxed app images, you have to go more out of your way to get dodgy software on Linux. The tradeoff there is that a lot of proprietary apps and helper programs that come with some tech will never be available in the repos and that can send some new users to try finding them elsewhere with all the risks that entails. Some distros go for a middle ground with access to things like the Arch User Repositories, but Ubuntu's solution is using things like PPA's to add extra software repositories.

[–] SplicedBrainwrap@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yes, much of the web is hosted on Linux servers, and only growing as more and more people start playing around with self hosting projects.