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[–] Grippler@feddit.dk 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

But then again, we also have pretty much every EU group pushing for super invasive chat control. It's ridiculous how schizophrenic they are on the subject of digital privacy.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yup, the EU isn't a role model for the world or anything. They have some good laws, and those should be replicated elsewhere, but don't assume that just because they got a few things right, that they don't mess up in other really important ways.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

For some reason a lot of parts of Europe seem to want to elect hard right borderline neo Nazis. Many cases, not even borderline.

God knows what the appeal is. Since the hard right and every particularly interested in protecting their own more interested in protecting their wallets. Not a concern that the vast majority of the populace are really going to empathise with.

[–] Grippler@feddit.dk 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Even parties to the left are pro this surveillance bullshit.

That's apparently a thing everywhere.

I'm in the US, and people here just seem to be okay with the TSA, NSA, CBP, etc all going through your stuff. I was complaining about BS stoplight cameras on a trip to another state, and my parents and cousin seemed to want more of them, despite them largely just harassing law-abiding citizens by shortening yellow-light durations and ticketing people for pulling too far forward... They also seem interested in facial recognition in stores and whatnot.

I don't get it. If they did an ounce of research, they'd see that these don't actually reduce crime or protect anyone, they just drive revenue and harass people. I mention "privacy" and they pull the "nothing to hide" argument.

People seem to want their privacy violated. I just don't get it.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 3 points 5 months ago

They are telling what they care about, take notice.

I am once they get a local AI grfiter, they will change tune too.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 5 months ago

It's not the same groups and entities pushing these things. It looks contradictory because it all ends up submitted to the same legislative bodies but that's par for the course in a functional democracy.

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah, seems weird, but there's also points where it's not related at all.

One is a company using user data they didn't tell they would use for this purpose, and illegally trying to do it anyway. They literally sell the data by making a product of it. It's also a private company with stakeholders.

Other is EU scanning messages, but not selling them.

So it's about who you trust basically.