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Even Apple finally admits that 8GB RAM isn't enough (www.xda-developers.com)

submitted 5 months ago by sverit@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.world

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There were a number of exciting announcements from Apple at WWDC 2024, from macOS Sequoia to Apple Intelligence. However, a subtle addition to Xcode 16 — the development environment for Apple platforms, like iOS and macOS — is a feature called Predictive Code Completion. Unfortunately, if you bought into Apple's claim that 8GB of unified memory was enough for base-model Apple silicon Macs, you won't be able to use it. There's a memory requirement for Predictive Code Completion in Xcode 16, and it's the closest thing we'll get from Apple to an admission that 8GB of memory isn't really enough for a new Mac in 2024.

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[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nor are they priced like consumer grade hardware.

Apple products in general aren't.

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

That's not true at all. Macbook Air starts at $900. You can even find a used M1 Air for cheaper. Absolutely was a steal compared to the budget thin laptops from Asus, Acer, etc. which start around $700. Once you go below $700 in laptop market, corners are cut. Perhaps Mediatek WiFi chips are used, laptop isn't thin, touchpad is awful, screen colors are worse. Apple usually puts iPad + keyboard in that market segment instead.

Tl; dr: Apple products are more expensive than budget electronics but priced comparatively to items that compete with it. However, electronic prices in the high end tier are getting hirer.

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

So it's more expensive than the competitors which also have real budget options at easily half the price but then "corners are cut".

You know, I won't even argue about the quality of Apple products - they are top tier. But calling the pricing "a steal" is just dishonest.

They have consistently been averaging at 150-200% the price of comparable hardware at least since the 90s. While there may be examples like yours where the gap is smaller, there are plenty of outrageous examples like the infamous monitor stand or some ridiculously priced chargers.

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You are right about the accessories, horribly overpriced.

They have consistently been averaging at 150-200% the price of comparable hardware at least since the 90s

I used to fix laptops for a living. I worked at a place where we had used Apple products and stuff from other brands. Sure, you could buy a core i5 Toshiba laptop that had a similar Intel CPU (though Apple tended to use Intel chips with slightly more GPU performance) at a fraction of the price. The screen was garbage, the WiFi stalled, the touchpad was unusable, using the keyboard made the chassis flex, etc. The comparable products from Lenovo, Samsung, HP were similarly priced.

You can find some laptops with decent Intel or AMD chips for $600 these days. Usually they will be plastic or bricks. Which is fine of you don't mind that. People want thinner products and that calls for a better design to (1) handle the heat or (2) buy the better binned CPU that operates better at lower frequencies.

Not only that but people were willing to buy the used Macbooks. Much better than the other brands where the plastic and PCBs were sent for recycling MUCH more often. Better for the environment.