this post was submitted on 30 Jun 2024
248 points (92.8% liked)

Games

16796 readers
850 users here now

Video game news oriented community. No NanoUFO is not a bot :)

Posts.

  1. News oriented content (general reviews, previews or retrospectives allowed).
  2. Broad discussion posts (preferably not only about a specific game).
  3. No humor/memes etc..
  4. No affiliate links
  5. No advertising.
  6. No clickbait, editorialized, sensational titles. State the game in question in the title. No all caps.
  7. No self promotion.
  8. No duplicate posts, newer post will be deleted unless there is more discussion in one of the posts.
  9. No politics.

Comments.

  1. No personal attacks.
  2. Obey instance rules.
  3. No low effort comments(one or two words, emoji etc..)
  4. Please use spoiler tags for spoilers.

My goal is just to have a community where people can go and see what new game news is out for the day and comment on it.

Other communities:

Beehaw.org gaming

Lemmy.ml gaming

lemmy.ca pcgaming

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] NeryK@sh.itjust.works 210 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Like every PvE game which does not have hundreds of people working to churn out content, its playerbase will dwindle until only those who do not get bored by its gameplay stick around. Whether it's Left 4 Dead, Payday, Deep Rock Galactic or Vermintide, those types of games follow this pattern...

And I for one, see no fucking issue with that. It's a great game, people play it until they have had their fill and then move on. Helldivers 2 is only an outlier because of how hard it hit at launch. It absolutely does not have the content pipeline to keep a large playerbase engaged, so yeah it will not keep printing a lot of money, just a little bit every now and then.

Now excuse me as I go and spread some managed democracy.

[–] loganb@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago

This message was approved by your local democracy officer.

[–] Irremarkable@fedia.io 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Basically this. Anyone who is surprised by this has been paying literally zero attention to how these things usually go. The majority of the time when a game explodes that much, this happens. Sometimes to a lesser extent, sometimes to a greater one. A good chunk of the people who buy the game in the first place buy it to play with their friends, and when their friends move on to another game, they will too.

While you will have games that are the exception, such as PUBG which has had massive a player count for forever. they are indeed the exception.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 4 months ago

Yeah, most players will play a game for a bit and then move on. It's rare to get attached to a game and play it forever, and if you do, you likely only have one game like that. There'll be people who play Helldivers 2 for years, but it doesn't seem set up like an MMO so is unlikely to get the same long term traction.

[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

That's a good point. An online game can be successful while having a limited shelf life. Make your money and shut it down (or just ramp it down for the smaller audience if it's worth the effort)

[–] AlexisFR@jlai.lu 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Yeah but that's the problem isn't it? Why are more toxic games like the PvP centric ones some much more successful with sometimes even less content?

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because PvP is basically infinite free content for people who like the game loop. I've had friends who love that sort of thing and they can play forever because they're putting their skills against real people who aren't just basic AIs.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

You can also just play PvE like helldivers over and over again. But people seem to like the idea of winning by putting someone else down.

[–] AngryMob@lemmy.one 8 points 4 months ago

Chess has been played for ages with no dlc. Competition against another person is engaging on its own. And chess is a good deep game on its own.

Combine competition with a good game and you get a successful infinite live service game in theory.

Only one or the other and you get a flash in the pan.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

They're not. This same curve happens with PvP games. The ones that don't follow this trend are the exception, not the rule.