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Jesus, that is a gross way to inject advertising into turn-by-turn navigation.

Edit/update from 9to5google so this post does not spread what is apparently inaccurate information: https://9to5google.com/2024/07/08/google-maps-pop-up-quick-detour-ad/

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[–] Sbuiko@lemmy.world 166 points 4 months ago (4 children)
[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 32 points 4 months ago (3 children)
[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 36 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately not, and the time estimates are quite inaccurate. Sigh, it's the price for not having to deal with Googles shit

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works -4 points 4 months ago

Sounds like you just have different shit to deal with

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 24 points 4 months ago (3 children)

No.

The only OpenStreetMap based navigation app with live traffic data is Magic Earth. It's not foss, but gratis.

They get the traffic data from some third party, not by following their users like gmaps. That is the reason live traffic is only available in just some countries: https://www.magicearth.com/feature-availablity/#hd_traffic

[–] Salix@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

They get the traffic data from some third party, not by following their users like gmaps.

https://www.magicearth.com/faq-en/

Do you share data with third parties?

We send position data to our traffic provider to generate real-time traffic information. The data is anonymized on the phone, using a changing key (so it's not linked to you), and it is deleted after 5 minutes.

They have a good privacy policy though. I haven't really had many issues with their app.

[–] BadlyDrawnRhino@aussie.zone 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for this, I'm going to try this out on my way home. My main use for Gmaps is to determine the quickest way to and from work during peak hour, so keen to see how Magic Earth's traffic data compares.

[–] KISSmyOS@feddit.org 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

the quickest way to and from work during peak hour

Everyone is using Google for that, so on average, traffic on all alternative routes will level out quickly and it doesn't matter which one you choose.

[–] batshit@lemmings.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This assumes everyone has the same destination, which is rarely the case

[–] Ironfist@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

not really, not everybody has the same destination, but a lot of people need to go in the same direction at a given moment (thats why you are stuck in traffic in this situation).

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But at that point what are you even gaining? If you're looking for privacy you're just trading Google tracking you for "third party service provider" tracking you

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

No. It means they get the data from somewhere else, maybe from some carsharing app, or from some government db from car counting thingies mounted on traffic lights, etc. There are other sources to get traffic data ftom, but usually following users is more convenient and reliable

They wont tell us where they get it from, they only say it's not generated via this app. They are followimg someone, but not me.

[–] Tick_Dracy@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

No, if you want that, just use Magic Earth. It’s a great app, btw.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 22 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Id recommend osmand over organic maps

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 29 points 4 months ago

Personally I been using organic maps because Osmand isn't giving me better directions and it needs more permissions and it doesn't have working voice directions

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 9 points 4 months ago

Osmand would be the best one if it wasn't so slow. Compared to organic maps the rendering lag is not only noticeable but very annoying

[–] explore_broaden@midwest.social 8 points 4 months ago

I don’t like how OsmAnd limits the number of maps you can download for free, Organic Maps’s donation model is much better in my opinion.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Organic Maps is fine. It's what I use, although I am not located in a great area for OSM. Are there any specific benefits to OSMand?

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Contributing by updating roads and POIs is fairly straightforward and can be pretty fun ^^ https://openstreetmaps.org/edit

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Of course! I do that all the time, and I agree it's fun. OrganicMaps uses the same data, I just find it a little simpler to use and clearer to read.

[–] xploit@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Did Osmand change that bullshit where if you changed your device you can fuck right off with your previously bought maps and pay for them again because they didn't tie them to store account

[–] xep@fedia.io 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Is there any way I can help contribute public transport information to OSM? It's the one thing that Google maps does that I can't replace.

[–] neblem@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If public transport mapping is your goal, it might make sense to try out the MapComplete Train Station https://mapcomplete.org/stations and Bus Routes https://mapcomplete.org/transit themes which give an easier, more focused, mapping interface. Quest apps like Street Complete can also make getting into OSM a bit easier, though OSM Beginners Guise is great too. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Beginners%27_guide

[–] neblem@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Yes! https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Public_transport though it is a bit complex to fully add routes, adding stops is super easy!

[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 months ago

OSM doesn’t really track live and exact public transport schedules (you can define static routes and say which interval the tram/whatever comes but that’s about it). Organic Maps is working on implementing live data: https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/issues/5331

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 3 points 4 months ago

I wish I could get satellite view but I totally get why that's not a thing