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[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 57 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah totally agree. The central premise of Mozilla's argument is wrong: that we need to care about what advertisers want.

No compromise is needed as advertisers problems are not users problems. Mozilla has massively dropped the ball on this.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What’s the alternative to give free sites revenue from the users who won’t donate, which is nearly all of them? Google Ads doesn’t seem to be adding an ad-free subscription anytime soon

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I feel the whole "I want to earn money by having an internet page/channel/video/..." is one of the problems here.

I prefer the old way, show some, sell some. Information wants to be free too, now it's monetised in absurdum. Look for how grep works? Get a 7.000 word AI written html page that rambles about linux and the shells history. And that's if you can get your hands on a something else than a 11 minutes long youtube fucking video...

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, personally I would prefer not needing to pay for information. Advertisements make it so the reader doesn’t have to pay anything while legitimate writers still earn for their work. It empowers the whole world to learn.

The obvious (but riskier ) alternative here is donations. But it’s risky, and sometimes cripples continued operation.

Personally, to combat the SEO spam you mention, I use a non-Google search engine and an adblocker by default while disabling it on sites I like.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What about the billions of people (fewer ofc but the drown everything in their crap) trying to more or less make up news just for those jucy ad revenues? That's where we are today I feel.

Also, if you skip ads with an ad blocker, your whole argument falls apart??

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 4 months ago

If I find a website to the point, engaging, or respectable, I turn off my ad blocker for it. (If it has 6 ads on a single viewport I turn it back on again.) I also spent an hour tinkering with the Acceptable Ads list to make it work while removing illogical whitelisting like search results and parked domains. I browse these sites, and they get my ad revenue.