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[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 186 points 3 months ago (7 children)

I just can't believe anyone still uses Twitter for any purpose.

At this point remaining active on the platform is more or less unethical.

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 36 points 3 months ago (3 children)

A lot of sites have weight. Twitter sheds users every day but the large user count makes it attractive to public figures and if you want to follow that public figure you need to have twitter.

My point is, it's becoming unethical for public figures and their followers to remain on the platform.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 61 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's why the more prominent the public figure is, the bigger ethical obligation they have to switch to Mastodon and force their followers to follow.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Cue a flood of Swifties when Taylor finds out about Mastodon.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah but to me it's insane that public people that have publicists or companies that have communications staff simply don't cross post to multiple sites.

Sure for a regular person that's a lot of work to do when just posting a random thought. But for someone who's job involves posting things to social media? Most of the work is coming up with the copy. Once that's done it's just copying and pasting to different sites.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago

more or less unethical.

Even before that, it just funnels value from users to a monopoly that does not innovate or improve user experience. It’s like the freemium model without much benefit in exchange for your data.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

3 Qs:

  1. Musk sux

  2. If you advised Kamala and she created a Mastodon account and tried to funnel people there, but not everyone left, would you advise her to at least post screenshots of her Mastodon posts or “see my post about $subject on Masto here: $url” whenever she had something to say?

  3. If you’re Kamala and your crystal ball proved posting on the dumpster fire site would bring you the one extra voter who will sway the election - would you take a utilitarian approach and keep dumpsterposting?

if Kampala staying on Twitter meant winning the election then sure.

It's my strongly held opinion that it won't significantly effect the outcome. A savvy media team could play it to her advantage.

Honestly how many swing voters are going to follow Kamala.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

“Less unethical” if you’re a journalist. Investigative reporters can visit nazi bars with 335m people if they bring us the goods about what the nazis are saying!

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sure I guess.

I have the luxury of not having to decide.

I'm not going to judge someone who feels they absolutely need to participate on twitter in order to avoid poverty.

I certainly wouldn't like to do that myself.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Dirty and sometimes dangerous job indeed!

There’s also the public service side too, even if the journalist is independently wealthy (set for life).

Like how the US sends the FBI to white supremacist meetups so we can gather intel, journalists gather intel so we know what poobrains are spreading around - then we can defend ourselves, be prepared for those who fall for the disinfo, etc. You’re not proud for attending the meetup or logging into the website, but you know you’re doing good by tipping off good people about bad things. Good citizens can do that stuff w/o financial incentives.

I salute ‘em!

[–] KroninJ@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I use it to keep up with Street Fighter pros.

And watch a little of the dumpster fire burn. I report all of Musks posts that break policy and kinda surprised my account isn't suspended yet.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago

I use twitter to complain about products at brands, it's more effective than you think.

[–] maxenmajs@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Twitter just has too much momentum. It's unshakable from its cultural position as it is now. It will take more than the alt-right openly congregating in their own circles to scare ordinary people away.

I disagree.

If anything the momentum is moving against it. The only question is how long it will take for alternatives to become viable and / or for twitter to lose its network effect.

Presently its only the inertia of users maintaining the network effect.

When the owner starts publishing misinformation I'm order to manipulate an election, that's something more than merely a consideration of features, users, and UX. Users really ought to emphatically withdraw their support, even in cases where it may be inconvenient.