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Linux Desktop reaches New All time high. 4.45%(+0.4) 📈🐧 (gs.statcounter.com)

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Like I said, much of the new things you’re complaining about is simplification. Flatpak, Wayland, xdg-portals.

No. AppImage is relatively simple. Flatpak is not. There's a clear difference between "new shiny" and "new".

Lol. Why stop there? Why not say they should be no more complex than an abacus?

Amiga 500 is quite functional as compared to abacus. Modern PCs not so much as compared to Amiga 500.

Can you please answer. X11 is far more complex than Wayland. Why do you prefer it if you like simplicity?

It's not far more complex as a protocol.

You don’t use programs that… do things? Things like follow system theming, give notifications, open/save files, record your screen, open a file picker, etc? I don’t think you’re grasping what portals are.

I don't, quick googling says this is something connected to giving permissions to Flatpaks or something, which I don't use.

Wayland is simpler than X11, by a long shot.

ColibriOS is simpler than Genera.

It won’t ever, by choice. It’s not meant to. X11 is filled with many mistakes that it should never have had.

As in?

The X11 developers say otherwise, and have embraced Wayland.

So what? It's not a religion to embrace.

Do you have the definitions of “simple” and “complicated” mixed up in your mind?

In what world is Guix more complex than Flatpaks?

See, you are trying to do these emotional hints at me saying something stupid, but this is really too much.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You keep saying that far more complex things are actually simpler. Where are you getting it from? AppImages are more complex than Flatpaks, X11 is otherworldly more complex than Wayland, xdg-portals are far simpler than the cluster fuck that is every Dev just creating their own solution, etc.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

X11 is otherworldly more complex than Wayland

What the actual fuck? This https://www.x.org/releases/X11R7.7/doc/xproto/x11protocol.html is "otherworldly more complex" than this https://wayland.freedesktop.org/docs/html/ ? It's more complex exactly in the amount needed to make it more specific and with the client-server model.

AppImages are more complex than Flatpaks

This is bullshit. Something like AppImages can be done with bloody shell scripts.

xdg-portals are far simpler than the cluster fuck that is every Dev just creating their own solution, etc.

Solution for what? Let's please verify that you even know what xdg-portals are used for, that is, that you know what you are talking about.

You keep saying that far more complex things are actually simpler.

You keep ignoring actual questions as if you were above them, you are not.

Where are you getting it from?

From knowing what those things are. I just don't immediately remember any of the details, because there's too much information in our lives and Wayland, Flatpaks etc are far from the top of the list, and more than that because I expect you to argue in good faith which won't require putting facts under your nose.

Also you keep behaving as if someone owed you something in general or if they lost an argument. They don't.