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A man taking his trash to an apartment dumpster was shot and killed after he slipped while walking and the gun he was carrying went off accidentally, according to San Antonio police.

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[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Other guns will do that as well. It isn't necessarily resolved by a trigger safety. Some guns, as shown on a popular guntube channel, will fire if dropped from chest height because the drop and angle causes the firing pin to move with sufficient force to fire the round.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A firing pin shouldn't be free-floating in a way that will allow it to strike a primer without the trigger being pulled in any modern pistol.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Shouldn't isn't doesn't.

The $4,300 Stacatto XC 2011 for instance, dropped from chest height, fired a round immediately without the hammer dropping. So did several others, and that was just one round of testing.

Most didn't, but for the most part they were only dropped once or twice and it was a fairly informal test. Literally just someone dropping the pistols from the height of being told "drop your weapon."

The P320, however, despite being dropped about a dozen times (and from much higher heights and different angles since the test was inspired by the discussions about that model going off) never discharged from being dropped.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A 2011, despite the name, isn't really a modern firearm. It's essentially a 9mm version of a 115 year-old design and too many boutique race gun companies cut corners for guns that aren't designed to anything but range queens.

As popular and fun as the 1911 is at the range, it has no place as a modern defensive firearm, and people who carry It are idiots. They're super heavy, low capacity, jam, rust, have a trigger pull so short and light they can't be safely handled while cocked without engaging a safety that's just a hammer block (leaving the pin floating), are a pain to clean, and more.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

🙄

It was one example. My point is, it happens. This is literally a response to you initially pointing it out that it happens in the "modern" P320, and I'm sure you've got an unnecessarily long and complicated opinion about each make and model. 👍

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The P320 still requires the trigger to be pulled to remove the stop that prevents the firing pin from touching the primer.

The problem with the 320, the Taurus G1, most 911s, and others is the trigger being pulled. It's why most of the industry has adopted trigger safeties like the one pictured that don't allow the trigger to move without something inside the trigger guard releasing the trigger.