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[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 91 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

am I crazy or am i seeing a pattern with these guys. They go off the deep end after they have a divorce. It's like Mike and Giuliani normal lives then their wifes leave them and boom, first train to NuttJobVille.

[–] lung@lemmy.world 67 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Or did they jump the train, causing their wives to leave?

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 32 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Great question. I knew a guy that suddenly found Jesus. He wasn't religious as far as we knew, never mentioned it, etc., then one day he suddenly became very religious. We had no idea what prompted it.

But I remember him saying he doesn't even know who his wife is any more, and thinking, "Uh, you're the one that changed." But the way he said it made it sound like he thought she had changed, not him.

He was the manager of the retail store I worked in, and he'd sometimes start badgering customers about Jesus and God. Not good. I was off to college at the end of the summer, and he was gone when I stopped in a few months later.

I wonder if he got a brain tumor or something, just to shift so dramatically so quickly. He was also doing bizarre things, like ordering tons of products we didn't need, and not ordering stuff we did need.

I remember one Sunday he scheduled himself, one cashier, one guy that had just started a few days before, and myself to work - then spent the entire time hanging out in the office. I was swamped all day. New guy did what he could, but he hadn't had much time to learn. I could at least get him to load stuff, things like that, to reduce some of my workload. That workday went by really quickly. The customers were actually really nice about it - I assume they knew it wasn't my fault, and saw that I was working hard.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 months ago

But I remember him saying he doesn't even know who his wife is any more, and thinking, "Uh, you're the one that changed." But the way he said it made it sound like he thought she had changed, not him.

When people get married they either stop growing, grow together, or grow apart. It's a crapshoot which is going to happen so it's dumb to stand up in front of your friends and family and swear an oath that you'll always be together when you can't possibly know that

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 6 points 3 months ago

There's a House episode along those lines.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

That sounds like a case of psychosis.

[–] lung@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hey thanks for the story time, real non-ai human, I value your authentic expression

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

maybe but it seems the divorce is always before you see them on fox news and such. but you might be right they go nutjob privately wife leaves then they get a victim complex and go public.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Probably some of each, they were a silent nut job, but when the wife left they decided to seek validation from the public. And everyone finds out they were nuts all along.

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

you are probably right on the money

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 months ago

I believe Steven Crowder is on this train. His wife left him due to his verbal abuse.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 57 points 3 months ago (1 children)

IMHO cause and effect are the other way around. They either become or always have been crazy, at some point their partners realise this and bail. Then, unchecked, they go full-crazy.

[–] lapping6596@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Daniel Tosh has a joke about how no woman should "stand beside her man" if they are to act crazy.

[–] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Happened to my brother, normal democrat who agreed with feminism and disliked Trump.

Then fiancee left him for another man, took a hard right thanks to Jordan Peterson.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it's because a separation can leave you in a really vulnerable emotional and mental place.

And assholes like Peterson or Jones or so are adept at latching onto that and subverting your perspective from the inside out. You'd think "Hey, that could never happen to me!" but it's difficult to know how vulnerable you'll be after a truly harrowing emotional experience - which a breakup can be in some particular cases even though between adults it really should not have to be - and once you're exploited, it's virtually impossible to realize how skewed your view has become.

Of course, this is separate from the often much more common case where someone was a nutjob from the getgo (like the guy in this article) and it just took their partner a while to realize that all the fame and money isn't worth living with someone so utterly deranged.

[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Look, I'm a grade A nutjob but two divorces later and I've never even voted Republican.

So that's... At least two things my dad and I have in common.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 15 points 3 months ago

Yup, one of my good friends was always a very fun, accepting guy. His wife cheated on him, she wanted to make amends but he couldn't and ended it.

Now his Facebook page is a constant stream of misogyny and trump support. Also whining about how people sometimes point out his bs claims instead of just allowing him to say things without being challenged.

It's sad because we used to hang out all the time and have a great time, now he's just completely insufferable.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lindell was a crackhead who traded crack for Jesus. Giuliani was always a scumbag.

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

oh i agree with both those statements what I mean they were private scumbags then became public nutjobs after the divorce.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 9 points 3 months ago

Might just be a sign of the times where it was a lot easier before the internet to keep negative stories about you out of the press.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Giuliani was always obsessed with being in the spotlight. Their was a joke in the early 2000s that said the most dangerous place in NY city after 9/11 was anywhere between Giuliani and a camera.

The only thing that changed was that he's gotten older, and less able to spin a narrative.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago

Reverse incel maneuver?

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 months ago

No one around to check their insanity

[–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago

No, no it cant be true see its all fake. See they dont go crazy! wife leaves

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