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[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Lots of Russians died too, so as far as they're concerned it's a win.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

they could have surrendered just like the other Russians did.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's not really how wars work in the 2020s. There's no opportunity to surrender when you get droned in a truck miles away from the front lines or hit by a glide-bomb in your barracks hundreds of miles from the front. We saw the same thing in the conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Okay call it not surrendering then but deserting and then surrender.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Between deserting and surrendering is sneaking across miles of territory, through the front lines, in hopes that the other side accepts your surrender and puts you in a POW camp instead of droning the guy in an enemy uniform sneaking towards their position.

We've seen plenty of videos of both sides droning people trying to surrender.

[–] Vuraniute@thelemmy.club 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not "lots of", more Russian soldiers died than Ukrainians, as is typical for this conflict.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Oh good, more Russian orphans than Ukrainian orphans were created. That makes this all worthwhile.

[–] Vuraniute@thelemmy.club 3 points 3 months ago

emphasis on the soldiers part but alright

plus, in war casualties are what matters. I'm only looking at this from a strategic perspective, not a humanitarian one.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

Good, maybe that way they grow a spine and overthrow their government instead of rape and kidnapping children in Ukraine