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It's not my battle, my country wasn't invaded. His was, but he had already left, and refuses to go back and help, but defends the people invading his country. That's pathetic and cowardly, and spoken by someone in a position of privilege from foreign soil (again, he left before the invasion) but claims to speak for his countrymen and women actually living through the atrocities and attacks.
My country is supplying military aid to Ukraine via my tax dollars, so while I'm not directly fighting, my country and myself are assisting them in their effort to defend themselves against an unjustified invasion.
I am a veteran of my country's armed services, can you say the same?
I also never told him to go fight, but it seems pathetic and cowardly to sit behind a computer screen in another country, claim to speak on behalf of your home nation while propagating Russian-media talking points. So I stand by what I've said.
Do you think we'd be sending them weapons (and buying up their assets for pennies) if this battle wasn't yours?
They've also supported Israel. By that logic, you, personally are assisting them in genocide.
I will serve crack before I serve this country. Look at every military action in this country's history since WWII. In none of them were we the good guys.
Oh fuck off. He knows more about the situation than you do. He is right there experiencing it.
Welcome to the world under capitalism, guess we should just do nothing then, fuck all the actual people that live in Ukraine and have had their lives upended or destroyed because of the war.
Seriously? Fuck off with that bullshit.
Yep, and I'm fucking pissed about it. This discussion also isn't about Israel, so don't change the subject.
Edgy, wow, impressed. Never said we were, just said I've served, so don't put words in my mouth.
By his own admission, he left Ukraine before the invasion, so no, he isn't there experiencing it. He's safely in another country, acting like he understands what's going on in a country he currently doesn't live in. And then acts like he speaks on behalf of Ukraine when they democratically elected their leader, continue to fight against their unjustified invaders, despite apparently living in a prison-state worse than Russia.
While also claiming Russia is not actively engaged in the very same activities he is accusing Ukraine of.
So go fuck yourself, I don't know why you're defending some Russian troll.
They wouldn't have had their lives upended if we weren't doing everything in our power to prolong the war! This is the absolute worst case scenario for actual Ukrainians.
So you understand making the world a worse place isn't the gotcha you seem to think it is right?
The one who suspended elections after he got elected on a platform of peace and failed to end the civil war?
How many Ukrainians living in Ukraine do you know? I'm certain it's less than the actual Ukrainian right here telling you what the situation is.
You really don't give a shit about actual Ukrainians beyond their willingness to bleed for the profits of the military industrial complex.
They wouldn't have had their lives upended if Russia didn't illegitimately invade their homeland. Twice, in the last decade, I believe. I also don't know wtf you mean when you say prolong the war, if Ukraine stopped fighting now you don't think Russia wouldn't just go at it again?
So you understand that this discussion is about OPC and their view on Ukraine and the Russian invasion? I told you I served to answerbyour initial question as to why I don't go fight in Ukraine: I've already done my time in the service, was the implication you seemed to miss.
Trying another subject change isn't the gotcha you think it is, kid.
The one who's following Ukrainian law and listening to the general vibe of the country and the situation with the war?
Or the Zelensky who is open to the idea of having elections, but does not think it's a good idea based on both the law and I assume logistical decisions, like having mass groups if people located in small areas for extended periods of time during, say, a war.
Not being literate on the world stage isn't the gotcha you think it is, bud.
None, as does the very obvious Russian bot who's, like I said before, just propagating the same Russian State Media talking points that you've somehow fallen for. Sad, really.
Mm, no, I do give a shit about a sovereign nation defending themselves from a foreign aggressor, and reclaiming any illegally held territory going back to, idk, 2013-ish. 🤷♀️ If it was so important to the military industrial complex, why did the GOP actively fight to stop it? That's taken money out of the wealthy's purse, can't have that.
You also never answered why you're defending a Russian troll, so let's try again in a language you may understand:
Почему вы защищаете русского тролля?