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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just vultures. It's pure corruption. People of the kind that already rule Russia.

Any kind of progress, justice, right etc they don't respect.

Big fish eating smaller fish is one thing they respect, and they also want more privacy while stealing, and the ability to spy after everyone else and coerce courts and institutions.

It's that simple.

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. We have allowed our democratic system to be quietly stolen from us without even really noticing. I think we either need to properly reclaim it or to start new systems away from it. The Fediverse is a really good example of the latter.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The fediverse exists in the web, while they exist in the reality and command police, people in airports and train stations, military, internet service providers, etc.

[–] wanderingmagus@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's why we should follow the example of the French and do a Revolution every now and then!

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Revolutions are destructive and have bad potential. But a certain degree of unchecked chaos is useful.

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I would argue that the web is part of reality - it's our main method of communication. It might be small but I think it's a good example of successful self-organisation away from government/business/finance.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It might be small but I think it’s a good example of successful self-organisation away from government/business/finance.

It's definitely not small, and backbones and intercontinental cables and such are not self-organization.

Late 90-s and early 00-s web, however were such an example. But they still relied on benevolence of ICQ and AIM owners, OS vendors, organizations making standards.

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, I was referring the Fediverse while you were referring to the internet as a whole. Limitations of written communication and all that!

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

OK, then fediverse still relies on PKI.

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Public key infrastructure, but specifically - the current centralized system with root certificates which everyone trusts, that the Web uses.