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Is Telegram really an encrypted messaging app? (blog.cryptographyengineering.com)

submitted 3 months ago by db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 151 points 3 months ago (63 children)

No.

As a kind of a weird bonus, activating end-to-end encryption in Telegram is oddly difficult for non-expert users to actually do.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 48 points 3 months ago (56 children)

As a kind of a weird bonus, activating end-to-end encryption in Telegram is oddly difficult for non-expert users to actually do.

No, it's not. It's very easy. In the bottom right corner there is a pencil button to compose a new message and right there it asks which tpye of chat to start. Secret chat is the second topmost option after group chat. Really not hidden or complicated at all.

[–] curry@programming.dev 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My man, have you ever worked in tech support? I admire your optimism.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That's my day job and I'm good at it. People understand when I explain three clicks.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

People understand when I explain three clicks.

This is the problem. You have to explain it. Feel like talking to several million people to get them to use it?

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Feel like talking to several million people to get them to use it?

I already made a one-line excessive tutorial in another comment. Feel free to link it.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

You should put it on tiktok and yt shorts, lol

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maybe when you share it, and explain, and be ready to support the millions of users, then we'll have e2ee. But even then we probably won't.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maybe when you share it

I already did.

and explain

I already did.

and be ready to support the millions of users

Of course. As I already explained, this sort of thing is my job. Millions of people signing support contracts with me: Awesome! I'll be creating so many jobs. Happy to expand into enterprise communication by offering Teamgram hosting services.

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

My comment was a sarcastic remark how hard it is to explain to millions of people how not to lose their data when they use e2ee.

If you are in the process of doing it - good job. But right now all out e2ee is for the enthusiasts only.

[–] curry@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Fair enough. I've met both good and bad users.

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