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What made everybody move from a corporate social media platform to another corporate social media platform instead of the fediverse?

After all, the Fediverse and Activitypub is much more mature than Bluesky and the copycat AT protocol or Threads and ... whatever they use.

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[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 251 points 3 months ago (46 children)
  1. marketing
  2. not having to pick the instance when registering
  3. people who have experienced Mastodon's hermetic culture discouraging others from joining
  4. algorithms helping discover people and content to follow
  5. marketing

and I'm saying that as a firm Mastodon user and believer.

[–] br3d@lemmy.world 83 points 3 months ago (5 children)

2 and 3 are massive. I'm on Mastodon, but am having a much better time on Bluesky. Mastodon is full of gatekeeping and policing and people complaining - Bluesky is just fun and interesting, like Twitter 12 years ago

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Who are these people who actually FIND users go follow on either service???

I have Bluesky. I have Mastodon. I log into each every few months, realize nothing has changed, and there is nobody to follow.

Then I don't use either, until I wonder a few months later "heeeey, I wonder if people are on these services yet......"

Still no.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Mastodon revolves around following topics and hashtags, not individuals. I learned that early on, and am having a much better experience.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like a worse lemmy 😅

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Not really. In terms of engaging with posts, oh my god, absolutely it's worse. Twitter and its clones suck when it comes to engaging with things people post (but Mastodon at least makes it a bit better by increasing the character limit). But there's just something different about following a hashtag versus following a Lemmy community. Like for example, when it comes to getting highly detailed, up-to-the-minute news about things, Mastodon beats Lemmy every time. Additionally, I can see people's random, one-off takes that wouldn't really warrant a post on Lemmy.

I would argue too that it's not even true that you should just be focused on following hashtags, but rather that you should be trying to do both.

To me, Lemmy is the type of place I could kill two hours; for Mastodon, it's maybe 15 minutes, but that doesn't make it inferior, just a different use-case. It's pretty apples-to-oranges.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Well then it will never be useful for me. I want to follow PEOPLE. I want people to follow me for the random shit I say.

Then they retweet the random shit, and now a whole NEW group of people can wonder what's wrong with me.

[–] jollyroberts@jolly-piefed.jomandoa.net 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I follow hashtags I like, then see who the people are who use those tags, then follow those people.

I find that I discover people that way I would not have found otherwise.

It's worked well for me so far. I wasn't a twitter person before though, so I don't know if I have the experience you did for comparison.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

See, I already know who I want to follow. I want to follow Nintendo. I want to follow Game Grumps. I want to follow my local pro wrestling indy. I want to follow MXRPlays.

But none of them are on the fediverse. Although, Andy Richter is on BlueSky. So that's something......I guess......

Ah, yeah fair point there.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I want to follow Game Grumps

Word.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

If you start following hashtags, then you find interesting people. There are also curated lists that you can sign up for. That will introduce you to a lot of new content.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

there's plenty of that going on, too, just not on as large a scale.

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Put hashtags on your random shit and more people will find it

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm going to copy/paste my last comment. You tell me what hashtag I'm supposed to use.

ABYSS LOVES CHICKEN WINGS!!!!

CLAP-CLAP-CLAPCLAPCLAP

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

#random #absurd #mentalinstitution #helpme

[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There’s algorithms you can subscribe to and use to discover people based on your interests. Theres also algorithms that show you posts based on who you follow and what posts you like. You can also enable your normal Following feed to show you some algorithm posts

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm following like 3 people. One is a bot that reposts things from twitter. One is a bot that posts local weather. And one is what I THOUGHT was Nintendo, but turns out it's just Nintendo@Lemmy.World.

[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago

Well that’s the issue then stop following bots? Look up a hashtag or keyword and find people or subscribe to one of the many algorithms

[–] Glasgow@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Use lists on bsky to find people.

And just gained a million people, biggest spike yet. So should be a bit more active.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Depends a bit on the type of person and content you want to follow. But if you like retro computer Shenanigans etc. I know action retro is on Lemmy and Mastodon and I follow them on mastodon. But yes General content for the normies probably not so much.

[–] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 6 points 3 months ago

The over policing thing is so true. I’ve gotten messages from techhub.social mods with warnings about making jokes that even hinted at breaking one of their precious rules. Like if I did something wrong, ban me I guess. It’s pretty clear I didn’t and the mod just wanted to flex his power towards me.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)
  1. Is bigger than the rest.

Take Brazil. Blusky saw the writing on the wall with Twitter, so they threw a ton of money into media. Guess where everyone went.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do you have a source for that?

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 0 points 3 months ago

Nothing specific, just knowledge from those closer, and not likely they'll publicize ad spend, but uptick was seen. Bluesky ads started around April when they had the big influx after the first suspension. Overview, but not a reference: https://www.bbc.com/portuguese/articles/cm2nkdkypk7o

[–] blue_berry@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Regarding 2: you can also join the Fediverse this way with certain clients I believe. You are automatically signed up for lemmy.world for example

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago

like Twitter 12 years ago

So don't use it then. Gotcha.

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