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Welcome to Kagi, the paid search engine full of surprises, which today opened an account in the Fediverse!

@fediverse

@kagihq is the very interesting project for a paid search engine, without tracers and with an accuracy in identifying results such as to exclude all Google spam.

Those who believe that #Kagi's costs are too high, should reflect on a small detail: if Google lets all those searches be done "for free", who pays those costs? The answer might seem simple: "advertisers".

Yet this would be an incomplete answer: like saying that rain is caused by clouds!

In reality, those costs are paid by users, by being milked and letting Google extract their "value", a bit like in the human farm in Matrix...

We first heard about Kagi on the @lealternative website (unfortunately, since then the prices have increased a lot, raising many doubts about the sustainability of the project) and recently Cory Doctorow also talked about it on @pluralistic

In any case, we are really happy that a service like Kagi's, effective and respectful of users' privacy, has landed here in the #Fediverse.

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[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Aaah, now I get it. You guys made an account to post on. I saw the headline and I was busting my head how in the world a search engine would federate within the fediverse...

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Mastodon posts tend to get funky when they federate, because Mastodon has this (annoying) norm of starting posts with mentions. So OP mentioned the community on the first line, which became the first part of the title - @fediverse. Second, it mentions Kagi as a tag instead of name, which gives the @kagihq. And then comes the first sentence as the rest of the title.

It's a great example of Lemmy/Mastodon interoperability working, but not being quite there yet.

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But it's a Friendica post, not from Mastodon. You can't write such a long posts on mastodon

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 11 points 2 months ago

Depends how the instance is set up. But yeah, it's the norm many places in the Fediverse, not just Mastodon - I should have double checked! :)

[–] cybersecurity@poliverso.org 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@cabbage

Mastodon posts tend to get funky when they federate, because Mastodon has this (annoying) norm of starting posts with mentions. So OP mentioned the community on the first line, which became the first part of the title - @fediverse. Second, it mentions Kagi as a tag instead of name, which gives the @kagihq. And then comes the first sentence as the rest of the title.

I'm not writing from Mastodon, but from Friendica

It's a great example of Lemmy/Mastodon interoperability working, but not being quite there yet.

The mentions problem seems to be only for PieFed, but it doesn't happen with Lemmy

I think it should be reported as an issue to PieFed developers

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago

It seems you're right - the title field from Friendica doesn't federate well to PieFed. So I probably misinterpreted the confusion about the title. :)

@rimu@piefed.social

[–] cybersecurity@poliverso.org 3 points 2 months ago

@RootBeerGuy in fact the title could be misunderstood... 😐