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bash.org is gone (lemmy.world)

submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by hal_5700X@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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It was a collection of silly quotes from IRC channels everywhere, many of which dated back to the 90s. It was rarely ever updated in the 2010s, but now, the URL no longer resolves.

Last capture was July 2023. https://web.archive.org/web/20230601000000*/bash.org

EDIT Someone archived all the quotes on the Internet Archive.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 296 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The internet archive is becoming one of the most valuable sites on the web, specially to avoid paywalled corpo pages.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 80 points 10 months ago (3 children)

And people are abusing the fuck out of it by uploading tons of copyrighted movies. No one seems to be policing it either. I'm very worried that its days are numbered.

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 56 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The Internet Archive has special status that gives it protections. What might kill it is the erosion of support for public libraries and such. The advancement of media companies' attempt to have absolute control over everything they release, by binding it into their own services.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago

I don't know that it has protections from people uploading Disney movies to it.

First example on a quick search: https://archive.org/details/LionKing1.5DisneyChannel

I really love the Internet Archive and have relied on it many times, but this is going to kill it and I'm just watching it happen in real time with nothing being done.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 8 points 10 months ago

Yeah probably. It's the ordinary playbook of allowing one site to become extreamly popular so it's much easier to monitor users and shut down if needed.

[–] uis@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Imagine how many copyrighted books are in IRL libraries. Now imagine that IRL libraries can copy any book in any amount. Congrats, now you imagined what libraries in Europe can do.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

I'm not sure what that has to do with people uploading copyrighted movies to the Internet Archive. You can't just upload Disney movies to YouTube and expect Disney to not give a shit. They still have legal recourse.

I hate copyright law, but it still exists. I don't want the Internet Archive to shut down and I have harvested a lot from the public domain video they archive. But those videos are at risk because people are uploading copyrighted stuff, and eventually a big enough lawsuit is going to take the site down unless they do something about it.

Also, the video storage end of the site is becoming more and more unusable because of it. It used to be easy to search through videos and find the legitimately public domain ones which you could then use in your own projects. Now if I'm not 100% sure, I have to do a bunch of research... and I know for a fact from talking to some people that they think that if they download video from the Internet Archive, it isn't copyrighted. And if they then use it in one of their projects, they are at legal risk.

And if the Internet Archive isn't going to be the global digital repository for public domain video, then it's going to be YouTube. Do we really want public domain video to be monetized?

This is, to me, pretty damn serious.

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Uhh what? I'm pretty sure libraries in Europe can't do that. Do you mean they can photocopy any book they own...?

[–] uis@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Not sure how exactly it worked, but some time ago in Russia it was completely legal for library to copy book, but it seems now laws became more strict. Probably some member of United Russia got a shiny new yacht.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

That might be legal in Russia, but not in EU or elsewhere in Western Europe. My partner works in a library in UK and copyright stuff is a big problem.

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Russia is not necessarily representative of all European legal systems. E.g. they literally proposed legalising piracy of content made by western companies: https://ria.ru/20230622/blokirovka-1879702649.html

[–] uis@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Out of all shit gosduma makes, this is the best thing they thought about.

Altenatively if you are pro strong copyright: make copyright inallianable and belonging ONLY to people who directly created stuff.

[–] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 24 points 10 months ago (3 children)

What will we do when the internet archive goes down

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

thats okay, someone will have put all the information on an impossible to search for or browse discord server, that'll surely last forever. /s

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Join the crowd on tik tok I guess

[–] Tja@programming.dev 8 points 10 months ago

Ok, I will need that off-grid cabin in the woods after all...

[–] noughtnaut@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's the Internet archive archive. It's being funded by all the excess donations that archive.org themselves can't find a way to spend.

[–] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

So when the internet archive archive goes down, we'll have the internet archive archive archive as a backup? Neat.

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Anyone who archives data so it wouldn't be lost is MVP 8bmzqc

[–] zerofk@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I download the internet archive once every month and copy it to stone tablets. Even if the world’s electricity reserve runs out, we’ll still have those.

In unrelated news, I’m looking for people with access to big stone quarries.