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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 52 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, if the lead NCO of a unit is just going to flat out lie then a lot of people are going to believe it. I can't imagine being a lower NCO or enlisted and thinking command actually authorized the chiefs to break operational security for entertainment, but only them. Every chief in that crew should be busted and flagged against promotion again. The investigation was completely right to say if they didn't know, they should have.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I may have missed it in this article, though I believe I read elsewhere, that she got busted down one rank and that's it. I know military in general is having retention and recruitment issues, but to me this is more than just a busting down offense. That the senior enlisted on a ship would so nonchalantly disregard OPSEC demonstrates either a clear lack of understanding, or worse, something more nefarious.

We saw a naval officer relieved of command for having the scope backwards on his rifle. This, to me, rises to a much higher level.

[–] flyingchaucer@lemmy.sdf.org 98 points 2 months ago (3 children)

We saw a naval officer relieved of command for having the scope backwards on his rifle.

Well in that case, it was just a matter of bad optics.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Take my upvote and get out of my sight.

[–] martinb@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Gotta keep your eye on the target

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

The door is over there, good day Sir.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

There's a lot of punishment that doesn't show up in the top line in the military. She may be flagged to lose her security clearance, (dishonesty, incompetence, and corruption) which would be the end of her career. They may also outright flag her as not eligible for re-enlistment. She's certainly not ever going to live that down and it's not a counseling form that disappears in six months. I'd be very surprised if she ever promotes again.

All that said, where I was, in the infantry, lying to your commander like that, while endangering the unit, would be either an Other Than Honorable discharge or a Big Chicken Dinner. (Bad Conduct discharge, do not pass go, do not bother with the VA, do not collect retirement, hope future employers never ask about your discharge)

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Yeah and that destroyer CO relieved of command for letting his sailors get treatment for COVID (before we had a vaccine) but this sailor just gets busted a rank for breaching OPSEC?! It's not like she did it for fun, she's probably compromised by some foreign actor. I've heard stories of the military making dumb decisions but damn.