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[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 189 points 2 months ago (22 children)

First responder here. The DNR doesn't mean a damn thing until it is literally in your hands. Until that time you respond as though there is no DNR. If you're wrong and they did have one but just didn't have it on hand then you accidentally save someones life, you're still legally in the clear, and I guess they can just die sometime later. But if the DNR turns out not to be real/legitimate and you didn't act just because you were told there was one then you just killed someone and you're completly fucked.

If you have a family member that has a DNR then be damn sure everyone knows where that thing is because unless you have it physically there when they are dieing then it doesn't mean anything.

Of course in places like nursing homes there is a different procedure. They know who has one on file and they will usually tell dispatch about it before the ambulance is even sent. But if it happens just in your home or someplace then the ambulance crew can't just take your word for it; they need the document in hand.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago (4 children)

The DNR doesn’t mean a damn thing until it is literally in your hands.

How does the DNR get into the first responder's hand in practice? Do you get an emergency call and drive there as fast as you can through red lights with your siren on only to be greeted by a relative that made the call handing you the DNR document?

But if the DNR turns out not to be real/legitimate

Are you responsible for validating its legitimacy while in the field, when every second counts?

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)
  1. Sometimes, yes, many times a family member may call EMS to hand them the DNR, this ensures proper procedures are followed when dealing with the body, less mess, and a quicker certification of death. It may also be important in situations where the person is influencial or rich and ensures you cannot be accused of foul play.

  2. No, DNRs have certain things that make them official, signatures and notarized markings. Usually one person will begin life saving measures while the ither verifies the DNR. EMS never work alone.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 4 points 2 months ago

EMS is such a worthy occupation. I admire EMS workers so much.

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