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[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 82 points 2 months ago (29 children)

I'm surprised so many people think this is a good argument. TikTok is a social media platform. Temu is an online marketplace. The potential to cause disruption within US society is completely different.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago (26 children)

Legally it is a very good argument. A law targeting a single company in name or effect is literally unconstitutional. It's called a "Bill of Attainder".

The counter argument is indicting Facebook because they never stopped selling information directly to the CCP.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children)

A US Citizen might be protected by Article 1 Section 9, but courts have adopted a three-part test to determine if a law functions as a bill of attainder:

  1. The law inflicts punishment.
  2. The law targets specific named or identifiable individuals or groups.
  3. Those individuals or groups would otherwise have judicial protections.

And unfortunately for the CCP they fail #3 unless the Chinese owners divest and all Chinese centralization for the company gets shut down.

Also, the tiktok ban was passed alongside a bill outlawing sale of data to China, Iran, Russia, etc. So if FB is still selling to China it is also illegal.

[–] Buttons@programming.dev -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You mean the CCP is not an "individual or group"?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

#3. Number 3. The third part. THREE. Learn to read. All three are required conditions.

The parent company don't have judicial protections. They're based in China and are state owned and operated. The US-Based subsidiary isn't being punished, they're explicitly allowed to operate if the parent company divests, but are choosing to shut down instead.

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