the rest of what Israel brings is too valuable to the US global goals, so it goes along with Israel to preserve that and is therefore controlled on issues that Israel chooses to exert control over.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Smol bean US being controlled by their own vassal that couldn't exist without their support. This is really deep analysis. You are a very deep thinker. jagoff

[–] antmzo220@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Strawmans are really fun.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It is not a strawman you are literally doubling and tripling down on an antisemitic trope known as ZOG. It is an unambiguously neo-Nazi talking point self crit my dude.

[–] antmzo220@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Is it anti-semitic "Zog" narrative to say that Israel bought, and therefore control the outcomes in, Missouri District ? (Cori Bush lost to a pro-israel candidate which attained historical funding from AIPAC)

Edit: it's not black and white where Israel controls America OR America controls Israel.

They both control each other in different ways/on different issues. It's not anti-semitic to point out the fact that Israel exerts control over the US sometimes.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Everyone arguing with you is anti-zionist. We want Isreal as it exists to end. If you care about the injustice and genocide of that fascist settler-colonial state, then I don't get why you want to die on the hill of an antisemitic position

[–] antmzo220@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Everyone arguing with you is anti-zionist.

Okay? I never said otherwise.

I don't think it's anti-semitic to observe the reality around us. As I asked above,

Is it anti-semitic "Zog" narrative to say that Israel bought, and therefore control the outcomes in, Missouri District?

I'm not saying anything about shadow Jewish cabals controlling governments. I'm talking about the objective ways we can all see Israel exert control on U.S politics and opinions.

Edit: also

We want Isreal as it exists to end.

Do you not want Israel as a whole to end? Do you wish to reform them?

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes.

[–] antmzo220@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Good to know.

Maybe if you think calling out all of the objectively true things Israel does equals the Zog narrative, maybe you are the one who believes in the Zog narrative.

I personally can seperate Israel from the Jewish people and don't think that Israels objectively controlling certain aspects of US politics reflects on Jewish people or Judaism at all, but instead solely on the colonial zionist entity of Israel which doesn't represent Jewish people or Judaism.

(Edit: and any country which had the leverage Israel has would be using it for their advantage as well, Israel just happens to be the one in that unique position.)