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Earlier this week my company bought a LIDAR from Ouster. The LIDAR is a network device: it has an ethernet interface, it gets its IP from a DHCP server and then it talks to whichever machine runs the Ouster application.

The engineers and the marketing guy in charge of evaluating it installed the software on a Windows 11 laptop and tried to make it work for 2 days, to no avail. The software simply wouldn’t connect.

So they came to me, the unofficial company “hacker”, to figure it out. And I did: the culprit, as always, was the Windows firewall. Because of course…

But here’s the twist: because it’s Windows, you need some sort of additional antivirus on top of it. Our company uses WithSecure, which is phenomenally annoying and intrusive, and constantly gets in your way when you try to do any work in Windows that isn't Word or Excel. And of course, WithSecure wouldn’t let me punch a hole in the Windows firewall, because of course…

Anyhow, after trying to work around Windows and the hateful compulsory antivirus, I called IT and told them I needed WithSecure disabled, at least temporarily. They told me to fuck off because they’re not letting an unsecured Windows machine on the intranet.

Fine. I pulled another, older Windows laptop without any antivirus, connected it to an air-gapped router, configured DHCP in the router, connected the LIDAR to the router, launched the Ouster app and… it didn't work.

After 3 hours trying to figure out what was wrong, I finally found the problem: the stupid app is an Electron app built with an older version of Electron that had a bug in node.js that prevented it from working if it couldn’t resolve some internet address.

Sigh… Electron… Because of course…

This was getting too painful and annoying with Windows. So I blew away the Windows partition, installed Linux Mint on the laptop, configured the ethernet interface as a private interface, installed the DHCP server so I could do away with the router, connected the laptop to the guest wifi so the stupid Electron app could resolve whatever it needed to resolve to work, installed the Linux version of the Ouster app, and hey-presto, it worked rightaway.

So I made an account for the guys in Mint and handed them the laptop. They played with the LIDAR for a few hours without any problem, pulled records and files out of the machine on USB sticks without any problem, viewed some Excel files in Libreoffice without any problem.

Eventually the marketing guy asked me:

“So what was the problem then?”
“Windows of course” I said. “What else?”
“Wow. That Linux stuff is really good. We tried so hard to make this work but we never could. But it worked rightaway in Linux. That’s slick!”
“Well yeah, I keep telling you guys Windows is crap. There are reasons and this is one of them.”
“Yeah I can see why you don’t like it. And that Linux desktop is really nice actually. I might give it a spin at home.”

So hey, I managed to impress a marketing guy with Linux 🙂

It shows how polished Linux has become, if ordinary computer users can be convinced this easily now. It wasn’t like that for a long long time and it feels kind of rewarding to know you bet on the right horse all along and you're vindicated at last.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It shows how polished Linux has become

Did you read what you wrote?

configured the ethernet interface as a private interface, installed the DHCP server so I could do away with the router

Yeah, you and I can do this. Most people can't. Yes, Linux has become more accessible. Most people still can't do this.

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

And the alternative to doing that is what? This whole story was started because of windows and windows antivirus being inflexible.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

All they have to do is learn, like we did. What's the big deal?

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not everyone has a career where dedicating time to learn this stuff is helpful or worthwhile. There's a ton of "useful" skills that all of us don't bother to learn because our time is better spent elsewhere.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, that includes me. My career has absolutely nothing to do with technology. So, what's your point?

[–] fishinthecalculator@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Maybe the point is that you cannot demand that the whole world knows the same set of concepts as you do. Otherwise just learn to remove cancer by yourself instead of forcing a person that studied decades to get down their trone and do their job

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

That's my point. They learned to remove cancer, and yet, can't remove them all. I learned to use GnuLinux, to make it work, regardless of distro, yet some things just fail. So, again, what's your point?

What's keeping anyone from learning anything other than the desire and effort?

You chose to bring up that ridiculous comparison only to confirm what I said. Ran out of hentai to watch or something? 🤣🤣

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ok, you're right. I have to agree that it being worthwhile for me doesn't make it so for others. Can't disagree with you on that. I'll down vote myself for not reading your comment with the intent to understand before I replied. And, honestly, thanks for pointing out that I did not really get it, for real.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Hey no worries, sorry for assuming you were taking past me instead of just missing my point! No need to download yourself haha

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

Sure the front desk secretary can't but the engineering team can if they use chatgpt and their brain.

The alternative is yielding to the techno priesthood and giving up on your dreams.