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[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (73 children)

It's really awesome to expel by nationality, even including people who've long moved out and immigrated years ago and don't support the invasion and war waged on Ukraine /s

Honestly fuck Russia ofc, but this goes a bit too far into the grey area between hawkish-reasonable and discriminatory, and on the latter side I'm not sure who and/or what this is meant to help, nor does it seem particularly fair to those individual contributors to keep their code yet remove attribution and mailing list entries.

EDIT: holy shit the bloodlust in the comments here is actually unreal, even on arr slash neoliberal and the politics communities here on lemmy the comments are way more sane.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 49 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (22 children)

Why are people so fundamentally incapable of nuanced judgement. According to people in this comment section, a human is entirely defined by their country of origin. What is this witch hunt level, toddler IQ thinking. Are people really so desperate to have a "bad guy" that they can blame everything on? This dehumanization of people is wild to me.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (10 children)

a human is entirely defined by their country of origin

That's missing a big part of the justification here. When you're from a given country, that country frequently has a lot of influence over you. You probably have family and other ties in your home country, and those can be used as leverage to get you to do what the state wants. And when your country is in active opposition to a large portion of the free world, it makes a lot of sense for people to be extra cautious in who they deal with, because it's never clear if that person is being manipulated by their former state.

So excluding someone based on nationality can absolutely make sense as an easy rule of thumb to avoid most of the problems stemming from that state.

[–] rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Should we exclude people from states actively fueling a genocide?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's completely unrelated to contribution to FOSS. The only way it would be relevant is for software projects that do some kind of filtering, so something like Lemmy might be an area where I'd hesitate to put someone from Israel, Gaza, Russia, or Ukraine into a maintainer/moderator/admin role because they could influence what content is viewed by users in a way that paints their country in a better light.

[–] rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

But someone from the US is fine?

The US also has some incentives here, but I'd say it's far less likely to interfere than the ones I mentioned. As long as there's enough variety (i.e. some people from the EU and other regions), it should be fine.

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