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[–] cyberic@discuss.tchncs.de 59 points 11 months ago (3 children)

So... Who is "The Completionist" and why are they getting removed?

[–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago (3 children)

YouTuber who ran a charity for something like 10 years, recently it came out that he kept all the money that was donated. What was supposed to happen is that he takes the donations, then donates that to another charity. When called out, his excuse was that he "forgot to donate the money."

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 18 points 11 months ago (7 children)

He later did donate the money, but only after being publicly called out, and his excuse was that he was trying to find his right charity to donate to, not that he forgot.

He's still a scumbag, but don't oversell it, the truth is bad enough.

[–] Fyurion@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

He starts by saying he didnt know and "that's not cool" but than changes his story and now it was totaly the plan all along. But on top of this, for years he would say all money they receive would be donated including things like twitch subscriptions and all that but now he says they used that money for their own costs. But wait there's more! His familly also runs a golf tournament which was supposed to donate all the money they recive to his charity but that money is nowhere to be found.

And to top it all off, he keeps bringing up his dead mother to try to get sympathy. The Completionist is a COMPLETE scumbag and a consistent liar, you cant trust a word he says. Oh and he is threatening to sue the people that brought his clear fraud to light.

I think that covers it

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

changes his story

I'm not going to defend or attack the guy, merely point out that facts. How much he knew and when is certainly up for debate, we just have limited evidence of that.

What we do have are facts, and those facts can certainly be used for cause for tht authorities to investigate.

His family also runs a golf tournament which was supposed to donate all the money they recive to his charity

That's partially true. What we know is that his dad runs a golf tournament and put the Open Hand Foundation on the ads. Usually this means all proceeds go to the charity, or at least that they get the sponsorship money (i.e. merch and whatnot) according to the prices they have listed for sponsors, but we don't have the actual agreement AFAIK between the tournament and the charity.

So there's certainly enough to warrant an investigation, but not enough to actually prove any kind of crime. There does seem to be enough to prove negligence for holding onto the money for 10 years though, which should be enough to trigger a thorough audit, including alleged golf tournament income.

And that's what I don't like about this whole thing. They've already presented facts and contacted the relevant authorities, so anything further they say is conjecture and therefore YouTube drama. The first video by Mutahar was informative, the second was a bit of drama (they should've investigated the golf thing a bit more), the third was just dunking on him, and any further videos I see that aren't directly related to an investigation are pure Internet drama at this point.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How much he knew and when is certainly up for debate, we just have limited evidence of that.

Over a decade he announced each year that the donations go to a specific charity and then he claimed that all this time he could not find a charity to donate to. That's different from ignorance.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

He claimed he knew the money hadn't been donated in 2021, so if that's true, we're looking at 2 years, not 10. He was an officer the whole time, but it's very common for family run businesses and charities to name people as officers even when they don't have an active role.

My point is that it's very possible that he didn't know for the first 7-8 years, and later just followed the same script he'd been following. That's still bad, especially since he didn't get the money donated until called out, but not as bad as sitting on it for 10 years.

The golf thing is the final smoking gun, and I'd very much like to hear his explanation of that before jumping to conclusions. It could very well be that one of his siblings is doing something shady there and he wasn't involved. Until I have details, I'll keep my finger pointed at the charity itself and not Jirard, though he is a prime suspect. I think it should absolutely be investigated by the authorities, who'll have access to all of the account data and can provide proof of what happened.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He cannot claim and keep a straight face that he's looking for charities when he speaks about a specific charity for years, be it 10 or 2.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My point is that he could have just been evaluating charities for the past two years, and before that his siblings were supposed to take care of that. We don't know what the internal agreements were, or the communication between him and the rest of the people in the foundation. All we know is that he claims he knew the money wasn't donated in 2021, and that pushing on him last month got the money donated.

None of this is particularly relevant to those who have donated, but it's pretty important when looking at legal consequences and culpability. I think there's enough here to say Jirard is a scumbag, but not enough to necessarily claim that he is a criminal, though there's a good chance someone at the foundation has committed a crime.

[–] britishblaze@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Even if he only he knew in 2021 he then continued to claim the money was being donated as recent as 2022. Which means he is either complicit or lying.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

I don't think you can draw either conclusion confidently. Here's an alternate explanation: his sister acknowledged that the money wasn't donated, and told him that it would once they pick a charity, and he didn't press on it until it got publicity. I haven't reviewed every time he boosted his charity, but in the ones I did see, he said he "worked with charities X, Y, and Z," not that they've actually donated money to them (i.e. they've been in talks about the donation process). I don't know how likely that is, but it's plausible enough for me to hold back on personal accusations, especially if I had a public platform like a popular YouTube channel (e.g. Mutahar @ someordinarygamers YT channel)

The way I see it, he's either complicit, lying, or negligent. I'm not going to guess which one until I see more evidence.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He’s still a scumbag, but don’t oversell it, the truth is bad enough.

One, running a charity and saying that you're donating money and then not donating that money is still charity fraud, especially when you advertise that you've "donated the money" in past events.

Two, they run another golf event that has donations that are easily tracked (by the number of donation members and tier groups for those donations), but the money from those events do not add up to the money they have on their non-profit statements. They have also conveniently left out their donation amounts for that golf event in an (very poor) attempt to hide the money that they have been stealing from that event.

He's a scumbag, and a criminal, and a thief. And he and his brother deserves to serve prison time. And they did this in the dumbest way possible, to the point that a YouTuber could follow the path and find the fraud. This sort of case is a federal prosecutor's wet dream.

There is no such thing as "overselling" this.

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[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

his excuse was that he was trying to find his right charity to donate to

Yeah, so bonkers. Naming a specific charity for 10 years and then to claim that all that time was spent to find the right charity is such an obviously dumb lie. Before the golf tournament thing came out, he could just have claimed "Oops, I could have sworn I made a recurring donation and I just didn't look at the numbers all that time. Seems I made an error, my bad, sorry." and nobody could have disproven it having been a dumb human error.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

He mentioned he knew the number hadn't been donated as of 2021, so it's entirely possible he wasn't directly involved in the charity other than running donation drives. Yes he was an officer that whole time, but it's very reasonable to say that a sibling was doing most of the charity work.

This doesn't absolve him of responsibility (he's an officer, so he should be aware), and he still didn't donate it for two years. But it's entirely possible he didn't know it hadn't been donated for 7-8 years, and after that point he just followed the same script he'd been using. Again, it doesn't absolve him, but it does provide some important context.

Then again, this assumes what he said was true. I don't have any reason to doubt it though, because he basically admitted to multiple allegations in the same call.

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[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's worse than that.

They were using the charity as a way to hide money that they were actually stealing from another golf charity event. The math doesn't add up, and this is going to end with the IRS throwing these assholes in prison. Trey Parker already put out in a comment (on that same video above) that he's suing their organization, and this is going to attract a lot of federal govt attention. The IRS does not fuck around when it comes to charity fraud.

[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Wait... The Trey Parker? As in the South Park producer?

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Left out the part and at the end he plays victim and made a claim that he was going to sue the people that called him out for not donating.

[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I am 100% convinced that article was written by ai with just enough info to keep people reading between the ads.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 months ago

This is an insane website. You’re not joking.

[–] dallo@lemmy.kiois.net 17 points 11 months ago

I now want a NPC named Karl the investigative journalist

[–] frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 5 points 11 months ago

I 100%'d this game, including post game content, and never even knew this character was based on a real person. That's wild.

That being said, if you enjoy turn-based RPGs with action command elements (Mario RPG, Paper Mario, Mario & Luigi, etc.) please play this game. It's incredible.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago
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