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[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 140 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Most men idiots, this man say.

[–] JayleneSlide@lemmy.world 39 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I can corroborate this. Source: am man.

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 31 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Them men. Me man too. Agree

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[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 128 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Ah, yes, the pinnacle of respect: grabbing them by the pussy

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 70 points 7 months ago (9 children)

Still confused why that fiasco didn't end his political career forever.

[–] Superfool@lemmy.world 42 points 7 months ago

It fucking blows my mind that trump continues to get away with what he has.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 34 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Comey came out days later and said Hillary was under Federal investigation while completely omitting that Trump was under federal investigation.

This fully eclipsed the grab them by the pussy tape.

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

The cultists are mostly bankrupt and don't actually believe in anything they claim to believe in. Same as their christianity.

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

The fact that it didn't is how we all know that his cultists will forgive anything he does. They have zero shame. The election is about appealing to independents and people who aren't paying attention. Nonvoters will decide this stupid election. You can see it in the astroturfing of "both sides are the same" and "our votes don't count anyway" and "if Biden wants my vote then he needs to stop supporting Israel". Trump will objectively be worse for you individually, America, and the world. If you want change, hammer it in the 2028 primaries. It also starts at local levels, so vote now to give chances to people who are trying to get experience to eventually run.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Men who are inferior to their fellow men, are always most anxious to establish their superiority over women. ~Mary Wollstonecraft

Let’s just say his followers are all of a type.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

he respects them by the pussy

[–] XEAL@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

"Grabbing them by the pussy respectfully"

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 67 points 7 months ago (1 children)

men who view trump as respectful to women are men women should probably run screaming from.

[–] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 30 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, it takes a whole lot of misogyny for a man to look at this dude's actions and statements over decades in the public eye and still arrive at the opinion that Donald fucking Trump respects women.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

None of them accept facts. They say they do but they reject them. Half of my friends I've known since before politics mattered to us ended up on the misinformed Rubepublican side. If you give them facts (like adoptions rose by 52% when gay marriage was legalized in the 90's) they just reject them or ad another criteria. The guy we were arguing with said gay couples don't make a difference because older children still have a hard time getting adopted, what?

These people aren't interested in good faith arguments or any evidence presented. They've figured out subconsciously that reality does not align with their viewpoints and are primed to reject it. Idk what you do when a good chunk of your population gets like this but we need to do something to get these people out of these harmful misinformation circles.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That's just it though, they don't look at decades of history, or even what happened yesterday. They only look at what trump and friends tell them in that moment. Whatever they were most recently told us what they believe. That's how they can flip opinions so rapidly. So, if Fox or Trump said that trump respects women right before they took this poll, then dag nabbit, he does!

[–] Mastengwe@lemm.ee 62 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] massacre@lemmy.world 49 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Even among my red-state god-fearing right-wing family members, I have never heard a single man say anything approaching this. They all know exactly what he is and don't care. He has a very public and lengthy history of the opposite, and the NYT knows it.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

Are you disputing the results of the poll? Although I will say that it was a poll of registered voters, which I would expect to skew old, conservative, and white.

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

I believe they said it, I just don't consider them men.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 56 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

This is the question and answer phrasing. Remember, these disingenuous fucks are purposefully trying to manipulate you.

The thing that pushes this "result" over the "majority" line (from this very likely flawed, non representative sample anyways) is the phrasing of "not much" as an answer - which FEELS like a NO answer to many, but is TECHNICALLY read here and tallied as a YES. Cowards.

Remember, polls are archaic, inaccurate and pretty much exclusively made up of a swath of the country, dying in place with otherwise empty lives, that now dedicate themselves to waiting for these calls to give purposefully misleading answers to skew results and provide click bait to unscrupulous reporters like this one. This poll was ONLY telephone based and answers of non-college graduate were weighted heavier than others, per their stated methodology.

Also, what does it say to you about this question THAT IT WAS ONLY ASKED ABOUT TRUMP? This poll is full of directly comparative questions about both Biden and trump, not this one though... weird coincidence I guess?

Register and get out to vote. We helped that criminal, rapist loser lose last time and we'll do it again.

[–] Sconrad122@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This is a great comment to contextualize the headline. But the numbers you are showing are for registered voters while the headline specifies men. Were there crosstabs for male respondent results that paint a less reasonable picture? 41% (weighted, as you point out) of all registered voters is already pretty high for the two yes-aligned answers, it wouldn't shock me if the political gender gap pushes those two over 50% when looking specifically at men, as unfortunate of an indicator as that is on the ability of those in my gender to understand what respect for women even looks like

Edit: found it, the crosstabs for men do indeed show 54% at "a lot" + "some". Truly an embarrassing showing

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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 43 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's also stupid because Trump doesn't really respect anyone regardless of gender. He just regards people as furniture.

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[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 41 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Lmao, what crazy people did they survey? I call bullshit.

[–] quindraco@lemm.ee 12 points 7 months ago

Can't read the article due to a paywall, but in theory, I hard agree. There's no way they found a statistically significant number of humans of any age or gender who think Trump respects women. His confession to rape is literally on Youtube.

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[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 39 points 7 months ago

Even among Trump supporters, I wouldn't expect "most" to say that, or even think it.

[–] thatirishguyyy@lemmy.today 21 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I'm men. Who are these men?

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

The idiots who answer unknown numbers regularly.

I’m starting to think it’s the same 60 idiots in all these polls. Ever wonder if the pollsters are on a first name basis with them by now?

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[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

"We surveyed over fifty police departments and found..."

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[–] Gork@lemm.ee 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Archive link

"Most" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

Most of the men who would answer a pollster.

And to the question phrased specifically to begin with, "If today was opposite day...."

Eat shit you disingenuous wastes of humanity.

[–] Shou@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

Those men have got to be worse.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

Why on earth is the NYT writing shit articles such as this one? I thought they were one of the last remaining journals with some integrity. They're determined to keep trump relevant and therefore help him win the election. Eh? Well fuck them too then.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Not any in my circle that’s for sure

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 13 points 7 months ago

Lol that poll base. Such garbage.

[–] JoMomma@lemm.ee 13 points 7 months ago

The NYTimes has sunken to the level of tabloid nonsense over a very short time period

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

I DON'T respect this woman and imagine she doesn't respect herself if she puts her name on an article with that headline

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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Trump respects women as much as I respect that orange piece of shit.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

50% of divorced men agree

[–] soba@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago

They can make these polls say anything they want. Hey, this time call 60 trumpers and 20 democrats and 20 fence sitters. That should give us the proper ratio for out next click bait headline.

[–] zod000@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago

Maybe they just got a statement by "Most Men Lawn Service" or something.

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