No, you love the creators you watch. Youtube, as a google company, created a businessmodel out of stealing data/private information and selling it to the highest bidder. I use newpipe, i never see ads but if i have a creator i want to support i send them money as direct as possible without middlemen (direct donations during livestreams for example). i pay the creator for their work. If google wouldn't violate my human dignity by shoving a camera up my ass 24/7 i might consider giving them money to run their servers but as long as they try to make me a product they won't see money nor data from me

[–] electriccars@startrek.website 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's a fair point, maybe I should look into using newpipe and use what was my monthly payment as a direct donation to my favorite creators instead. Thanks for the informative reply!

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

If they have a patreon, that would be the best way short of putting the money directly in their hands.

[–] Catsrules@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

No, you love the creators you watch.

And Youtube makes that possible. Show me another service that is as good as Youtube is? Unlimited uploads for everyone, extremely fast constant delivery network. Require no logins or accounts to access the site. 4K video etc.. etc.. All for the low price of free with ads, or pay for no adds. They every are even one of the best at paying content creators. There is a reason almost every content creator ends up having some kind of account on Youtube.

Youtube, as a google company, created a businessmodel out of stealing data/private information and selling it to the highest bidder.

I don't believe Google is in the business of selling data. There business is ad delivery. They keep the data to themselves as it is their secret sauce to deliver ads.

[–] beefcat@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Google absolutely is in the business of selling user data, through their ad network. AdSense customers use that data to target ads. It’s their whole business model. Just because they aren’t being given a database with all that data doesn’t mean they aren’t paying for access to it.

Facebook operates the same way.

[–] chris@lem.cochrun.xyz 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

They keep the data to themselves as it is their secret sauce to deliver ads.

I don't think that's entirely true. They won't sell direct data, but through their ad and search systems your ads can drill down to very specific people and thus you know about them. It's still crappy. It's kinda unfair I think to outright say they don't sell your data. You data is their core money maker. It's just in a round about way. Sure maybe it doesn't bother you, but in my opinion, the collection of data is the core problem with modern technology, not even just the internet. Data is extremely powerful and valuable.

[–] Catsrules@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago

I don’t think that’s entirely true. They won’t sell direct data, but through their ad and search systems your ads can drill down to very specific people and thus you know about them.

Sure you can drill down to specific characteristics of people but as far as I am aware it is Google that actually handles the interactions/delivers the information. So I am not really sure what information a third party could gather about a specific person.

But yeah I totally agree data collection is a huge problem basically every tech company is doing it. One of the reason why I try and self host as much as possible. To truly solve the problem we need better privacy laws in place.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

YouTube, removes downvote count, and implements shitty start up noise that I can't disable, and raises price. Then wonders why I don't want to pay for that shit.

[–] phantomc137@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

and the shorts start up page pops up as soon as you open yt , to push you into the mindless scrolling

[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

NewPipe exists.

[–] Norbas@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cope, mald and seethe, Youtube shill.

[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

If money could stop things from enshitifying, there would be very few shitty things on the planet.

If everybody on the planet subscribed to YouTube premium they would still become enshittified.

Even with 8 billion monthly subscriptions at $10 a month or more, Google would raise the prices and provide less service.

They would do whatever they have to do whatever they can do to extract the most amount of money they possibly can out of the product.

This is not just because Google is a shit company, this is because greed knows no bounds. The only way for a company to stop being enshitified is for the company from the top down to be radically opposed to enshittification.

Only a good King can stop enshittification.

There are no good Kings in Google.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Fuck google and the horse it rode in on. Never paying them a single red cent. They already make bank selling my data.

Fuck em with a cactus.

[–] halvar@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

sounds like propaganda

[–] hellishharlot@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

ublock origin on my PC works amazing. I forget yt has ads most of the time. If web drm becomes a thing I'll hopefully have a pinhole in front of my traffic by then

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

Youtube without ads + bonus functionalities

Youtube Music

Both are FOSS btw

[–] xor@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

!hailcorporate@infosec.pub

[–] MyFeetOwnMySoul@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago

You've found quite the hornets nest, it seems.

I pay for premium because YouTube does video delivery better than anyone else in the world, and it's not free for them to provide. Lots of things to hate about YouTube/Alphabet, but theft is a corrupt way of expressing discontentment.

Also, if I pay for premium, then content creators get paid, and I don't have to shell out for merch to not feel like a terrible person.