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[–] isles@lemmy.world 131 points 6 months ago (1 children)

When the ideas run dry for infinite growth, everything old is new again.

[–] snownyte@kbin.social 42 points 6 months ago (3 children)

You're correct.

Social Media is the perfect example of this. Everytime a new social media network arrives, they always boast about being able to do things you could already have done with the other 9 social media networks. Sharing pictures and video, chatting .etc. They're all things we could've already have done far way back in the days of messaging software like AIM. It's nothing new, it's just recycled ideas being treated as new.

The only things that have ever improved were the amount of size of videos and pictures we can share and the speed in which we're able to do it with. That's it.

The well of finding new ideas has ran dry, because they've all been tried and done before many times. New name, same old shit.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

But Tom was my friend whereas Zuck is an alien.

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[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 116 points 6 months ago (3 children)

That article was worthless.... basically streaming is expensive and not as awesome as it once was. There you go whole article

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The biggest change to me is how much the streaming services are pushing commercials now. Paying to watch commercials really completes the transition back to cable.

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[–] PlantJam@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's still way more awesome than cable ever was. Sure you can have all the services all at once and pay as much as a cable bill, or you can rotate your subscriptions and pay way less.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I’m not sure about that. Popular shows get canceled, unfinished. Huge price hikes, and you can’t jump to another provider to watch the shows at a new rate or call and threaten to cancel to get a new rate. Sure, there are a few good series, but it’s still mostly crap. Sure, you can watch some older movies on demand, but plenty aren’t available, are available on some other service, and/or require you to pay a rental fee if you can find it. Prices keep climbing, ads are constantly a threat, and they place more restrictions on how many devices you’re allowed to watch on.

They are doing everything they can to re-insert the worst aspects of cable.

[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The real difference is you can watch what you want to watch on demand instead of being limited to their selection of shows on their schedule.

Also, you can sign up for a month, watch a series, then cancel and sign up to some other service. Pay for several services and sure, it's expensive. But one or two? Still a hell of a lot cheaper than Cable ever was.

The fact most content is crap is irrelevant - there's more good content available than any reasonable person has time to watch.

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[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

I sure soon they will introduce contracts making sign up for 6 to 1 year up front to prevent just that.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

@teamevil, the hero we need, not the hero we deserve.

[–] redeyejedi@lemmy.world 46 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Yes, but no. Cable didn't used to let you watch all seasons of a specific show on any given day and time of your choosing.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

I'm old enough to remember when cable didn't have ads. I was really young, maybe 5ish, but even then it was confusing to me when they started adding commercials. That was for bad TV with the antenna. Then it was only HBO that didn't have ads, but we couldn't afford that until I was much older.

EDIT: I guess my memories of being 5 years old aren't very accurate.

[–] BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Basic cable has always had commercials along with the over the air channels. Premium channels didn’t.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yep, cable was first used to allow people to watch the same channels that were available over the air just from a more locations than what was available via antenna at their home (and with better reception), so it had the same commercials.

Premium channels were commercial-less for 7 or 9 years (can't remember exactly) before the first premium channel decided to start running adverts.

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[–] pixel_prophet@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago

Until the show you want to watch gets removed because they don't want to pay the licensing fee for it anymore.

The original content is often very mid.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 45 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What we wanted: a-la-carte channels.

What we got: seven expensive streaming services and they all still somehow have ESPN bullshit.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 6 months ago
[–] Veraxus@lemmy.world 45 points 6 months ago (3 children)

On the up-side, I can cancel subscriptions whenever I want and only subscribe to one or two at a time when they have something I want to watch. I could never do that with cable.

That said, pricing is getting way out of control. I will not tolerate ads and we're getting to the point where purchasing content makes more financial sense than subscribing to things that load you up with caveats unless you pay premiums.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 14 points 6 months ago (4 children)

They're going to complicate unsubscribing next.

I think that's illegal in some places, like California and the EU.

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[–] Takashiro@lemmy.today 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The "best" part you forgot , buying probably won't be possible or available

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[–] Crisps@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I fear the change from monthly to annual only subscriptions is on the horizon

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[–] knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 35 points 6 months ago (5 children)

The music industry figured it out. Now the video streaming industry needs to. Until then, arrrrrr.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The music industry figured it out: I listen to way more music than ever before and I willingly pay more than ever before

Video streaming keeps trying to make my experience more frustrating, less value to me. They’re scrounging for dollars is driving me away. I’ve considered my options for making video entertainment enjoyable again, and I’m just tired of the whole thing. I’m spending more time in projects, more time online, more time reading ebooks from my library. I’m watching less video than before, enjoying it less, getting less value for my money and it’s just all not worth it. Their efforts to profit more from my attention are getting them less of it and losing my willingness to pay

[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The big difference is exclusive content. Music has a few exceptions but in general sign up for one service and you can listen to anything.

That forces music services to compete on the overall experience (and price), while video services pretty much exclusively compete based on what content is available and literally none of them offer all of the things a person wants to watch. So nobody will ever be happy with any streaming service.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

I think exclusive content is only a symptom of the larger problem, which is that we're letting movie production companies run their own (new-fangled versions of) theaters again.

[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Yo ho ho my friend. Yo ho ho.

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[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 33 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Lemonparty@lemm.ee 32 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Meanwhile pirating content and streaming it has never been easier. Jellyfin and private trackers ftw

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[–] Steve@startrek.website 25 points 6 months ago
[–] Audacious@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 months ago

I stopped using Hulu when it introduced ads over a decade ago and never looked back. The stock of that company did really well despite the cable-like inconveniences.

[–] snownyte@kbin.social 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Um, duh?

Is the author just noticing this? We've been piecing this together for the past 7 some odd years. The day hit us was when YouTube decided to be cute by adding in it's own network via YouTubeTV and with it's onslaught of ads.

Lessons from movies that streaming services didn't learn:

"You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

We know, Verge.

Now go build an PC...wait nevermind.

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[–] fuzzywombat@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

With the current state of streaming services mess, I think I would have signed up for disc rental by mail. Access to nearly 100% of media at highest quality for around 10 to 15 bucks a month seems like pretty good deal right about now. Sadly Netflix killed that part of their business so I can't even go back to that.

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[–] yakimasy@startrek.website 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I’ve just gone back to pirating and buying DVDs. I don’t watch much of anything anymore.

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[–] tedu@azorius.net 11 points 6 months ago

What is this "world of content" the author is talking about? 17 years ago, the streaming options on Netflix were the previous season of Friday Night Lights, and... that was it. A few years later they got The Office, but never the current season. So you were always behind. These articles never seem to include a graph of available content over time.

[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I went from cable to satellite in 2008 and then went strictly streaming in 2010. I've had Disney + and Netflix off and on over the years but I've found that I don't need any of them. There are plenty of things to watch for free elsewhere and plenty of other things to do than watch shows that will be canceled after the first season.

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 7 points 6 months ago

I won't watch a show unless it's done. This bullshit of cancelling after one season is ass.

[–] Beetlejuice001@lemmy.wtf 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hulu is owned by cable companies, they didn’t learn everyone hates advertising

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[–] Pixlbabble@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Dvd's are still free at the library if you don't want to pirate.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

It’ll be cable when they start making you contact customer retention in order to cancel.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago

I have a reminder to cancel Amazon Prime in a month. I never really used the TV portion until a few months ago and was like, fine ... the selection sucks but it's alright. After they introduced the ads now, it's unusable to me. I'm getting rid of it entirely and not rewarding this type of behaviour.

[–] SacredHeartAttack@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

The convenience you required is now mandatory.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 months ago

!piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 months ago

Three things:

  1. Governments need to regulate exclusive third party content so that the platforms compete on quality instead of just amount of content.
  2. Companies should go back to pay as you use. I hate subscribing to things.
  3. Users should push back hard on new bad things that the corporations do.
[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

My hot take, in the digital age, all direct marketing should be opt-in with the platform. Opt-in for industries with the ability to ban specific advertisers.

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