this post was submitted on 13 Jun 2024
43 points (95.7% liked)

Selfhosted

40296 readers
271 users here now

A place to share alternatives to popular online services that can be self-hosted without giving up privacy or locking you into a service you don't control.

Rules:

  1. Be civil: we're here to support and learn from one another. Insults won't be tolerated. Flame wars are frowned upon.

  2. No spam posting.

  3. Posts have to be centered around self-hosting. There are other communities for discussing hardware or home computing. If it's not obvious why your post topic revolves around selfhosting, please include details to make it clear.

  4. Don't duplicate the full text of your blog or github here. Just post the link for folks to click.

  5. Submission headline should match the article title (don’t cherry-pick information from the title to fit your agenda).

  6. No trolling.

Resources:

Any issues on the community? Report it using the report flag.

Questions? DM the mods!

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

I want to get a new VPS. It'll mostly be used to host lightweight Docker images, and reverse proxying through Caddy. So, decent CPU and fast network speeds are the main things I need.

I have a cheap VPS with RackNerd. It's fine, but only has a single CPU core, which gets overwhelmed if multiple connections are trying to pull stuff from some service. So, I guess having multiple cores is a requirement as well.

I want to spend around $5/month, but willing to go a little higher if it's worth it. Any suggestions are appreciated.

P.S. I'm based in US and would prefer something in here for lower latency.

Update: Hetzner's CX22 IPV6 only plan seems to be very good in terms of price-performance ratio. But the servers are in Europe. I'm planning to try it out for a while and see how the latency is. It's great that they don't lock you in with yearly plans.

all 43 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters More Letters
CGNAT Carrier-Grade NAT
DNS Domain Name Service/System
IP Internet Protocol
NAT Network Address Translation
VPS Virtual Private Server (opposed to shared hosting)

[Thread #801 for this sub, first seen 13th Jun 2024, 22:05] [FAQ] [Full list] [Contact] [Source code]

[–] alvaro@social.graves.cl 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Where are you, if I may ask? Their Intel offers are not based in the US. Most of the time, I'll access it from inside US, so I'm worried about the latency.

[–] alvaro@social.graves.cl 3 points 5 months ago

@SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org in the US, but I prefer to have a server in places with better user protections... AFAIR they do have a data center in Hillsboro, OR, but IDK about what specific offer they have there.

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I know I'll be told that it is a shit company, but Oracle free VPS works like a charm for me. Using it to circumvent CGNAT by running Wireguard on it

[–] ambitiousslab@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As a note of caution, I used Oracle's free tier to run a personal Matrix server, and it got deleted without any advance warning after a few months. I migrated to another provider and haven't had any issues for 2+ years now.

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I got notification from them that they will stop unused machine. I've just rebooted and didn't get anything for a few months now

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A big point of confusion that keeps happening in relation to OCI is that there's actually two "tiers" of free, and one of the two is subject to resources vanishing.

If you convert to a pay-as-you-go account, all that shit stops, and you're treated as an actual customer while keeping all the free tier stuff.

I suppose you could get hit with a surprise bill if you're not careful and use things that have a free tier and then convert to billing (example: you exceed your object storage free amount), but if you don't use anything outside of the compute resources, it's just as good without the resource reclamation stuff.

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I think I've tried to switch to pay as you go, but they wanted to reserve $100+, so I said no. And didn't have any bugging restarts or anything.

I'll second that. Oracle sucks but they've given me thousands worth of free cloud shit over the last 3 years so I'm not displeased.

[–] mojoaar@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

+1 on OCI free tier (ARM) - works like a charm. No need to spend those $5 a month of what OP want's to do.

[–] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

I got a little server from them a few weeks ago for $17/yr ($1.42/mo) and it's great. 1 core, 2 GB RAM, 35 GB storage.

I used rclone to mount a Backblaze bucket and transferred a couple services to it, including Immich.

[–] mhzawadi@lemmy.horwood.cloud 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Have checked out OVH yet?

Have a VPS and a dedi with them

[–] Forester@yiffit.net 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

All I will say is that company has issues. Make sure you have the full backup of whatever data you put there.

[–] mhzawadi@lemmy.horwood.cloud 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That is true of any hosting provider, I have backups backblaze.

[–] faercol@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago

That's good, because otherwise your data might end in a blaze.

(Totally not speaking from experience)

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you need support outside of business hours, you're fucked.

Friend had a network misconfig on their side take his server out on Friday night and they didn't fix it until Monday.

[–] mhzawadi@lemmy.horwood.cloud 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's just like Aws, you pay for better and longer support. But they don't make it clear support is only 9-5

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

That is definitely not like AWS

[–] mhzawadi@lemmy.horwood.cloud 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ok, Aws is 24/7. But they will just help you spend even more money

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago

True, welcome to the "cloud"

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 months ago

Thanks, I'll check it out.

[–] randombullet@programming.dev 5 points 5 months ago

If you're okay being in the EU, I use Ionos. €1 a month with a IPv4 address and no contract.

On the US side, Oracle has a free tier for 2 arm CPUs. You could load balance between them, but they're still kinda slow.

Either of these you can test for very low costs and see what you enjoy.

[–] vengefulpunk@supernova.place 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I would recommend Digital Ocean for a VPS. With you being in the US latency should be decent and you can pick whichever is closer to you either SF or NY. My Lemmy instance is hosted on DO even.

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 months ago

Thanks for the suggestion.

[–] mlaga97@lemmy.mlaga97.space 5 points 5 months ago

DigitalOcean and Vultr are options that "just work" and have reasonable options available in $5-6/month category.

DO is more established and I've used them for nearly 10 years now for a $6/mo VPS and for managing DNS for my domains. Vultr has some much closer datacenter options if you happen to be in the southeast US, rather than basically just covering California and NYC like DO does.

[–] redxef@feddit.de 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Contabo is really cheap and has a few datacenters around the world. That low price comes at a cost though, their uptime is not as good as that of other providers. Expect about 3 outages a year, lasting about half an hour, maybe a day in extreme cases.

[–] dasbteam@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 5 months ago

AFAIK Contabo seems to oversubscribes harder than others, so Performance can be really bad, high CPU steal, low IOPS, etc. It varies from instance to instance, as usual, sometimes support can move you to a different node but many people seem to prefer other providers after having used contabo.

[–] faercol@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah I went back from Contabo tbh, as you said, I had several outages, the worst of which lasted several days with absolutely no information, nor response from the support. (My VPS had all the symptoms of a broken disk, which was extremely worrying)

That, plus the subscription fees, it's not something I would advise today

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I've used it for years without issues before I moved to using my own hardware

[–] rebellioustrickster@monero.town 4 points 5 months ago
[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They have had a few issues that are offputting to me personally

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Can you share details into that?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They have many bad customers running things like email servers to send out spam. They then seen to ignore the problem which leads to digital ocean getting blocked.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Now that you say that once I had Microsoft refusing to receive email sent by a DO IP but I filled some form and the block was lifted in a few hours.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You mean Akamai Connected Cloud, formerly Linode.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That’s what it’s called. Linode is gone my friend. It’s time to say goodbye.