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Tesla drivers had highest accident rate, BMW drivers highest DUI rate, study finds::Tesla drivers had 24 accidents per 1,000 drivers during the period from mid-November 2022 to mid-November 2023, according to a study by Lending Tree.

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[–] Donut@leminal.space 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

What's the point in these bots posting news articles about stuff covered a week ago?

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I had thought that a number of subreddits took the repost thing a bit too seriously. I was a relatively heavy user, and I’d still be encountering content for the first time even though there were people complaining about reposts.

But on lemmy there’s not enough total content to begin with, and what there is gets fragmented across a fractal explosion of topics, so I end up having to browse /all sorted by new and just count on blocking communities rather than subscribing to tune my content.

I will still see the same article posted across multiple instances and topics in a row. I haven’t yet found a client that can make the UX as seamless as Apollo or even Alien Blue.

[–] Donut@leminal.space 2 points 2 years ago

I have a similar strategy, and I don't mind the duplicate topics as it makes sense for how Lemmy works.

But this news was covered on this very community five days ago.

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Weird that this 'study' keeps getting picked up by different outlets and attributed to LendingTree who specifically notes at the top of said study that they don't endorse anything within it and it's solely the opinion of the author.

Furthermore, this study is obviously flawed as it states Pontiac, Mercury, and Saturn as the vehicles with the safest drivers, even though none of those companies have produced a car in around 15 years. The data is also sourced from people filling out insurance applications and doesn't actually account for who was at fault for these accidents, nor does it even track the type of vehicle involved in the accident. It simply tracks who has an accident or DUI on their record and what vehicle they're currently looking to get insurance quotes for. It's clickbait in its purest form.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Not to mention that people who buy brand new Teslas are more likely to submit an insurance claim for anything at all than someone driving a15 year old Saturn

[–] Aasikki@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

So this basically means that drink bmw drivers still drive safer than sober tesla drivers

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

Ha, based on just the headline I started to wonder whether Tesla's "autopilot" is behind the accidents, and seems like it's at least partially the case:

A two-year investigation by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration found that Tesla’s Autosteer feature, which is part of Autopilot and FSD, had safety defects that may cause an “increased risk of a collision.” The NHTSA said it found that Tesla drivers can too easily misuse the cars’ Autosteer feature and may not even know whether it is engaged or switched off.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

So people trying to insure a new Tesla were involved in accidents higher than Ram? Doesn’t say what car they were driving when they had accidents, only that they are looking for insurance on a Tesla. Anyone who claims this is because of Tesla vehicles has an agenda to push.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

DUI = driving under the influence

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

BMW = Bayerische Motoren Werke

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 0 points 2 years ago

Bayerische Motoren Werke AG xD

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Best part about this study is that Telsa beat out Ram trucks, giant lifted monstrosities that are loved by people rocking punisher stickers.

Telling the press that autopilot and FSD is critical for safety, then getting a worst safety rating than Ram, is hilarious.

[–] dgmib@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I’m not intending to defend Musk or Tesla here, but this study is literally just insurance incidents by brand and makes no distinction between Teslas on autopilot and under human control.

Teslas tend to attract a certain kind of driver that likes their performance characteristics who are not typically known for being the safest drivers.

There’s no doubt that a lot of Tesla drivers abuse the autopilot capabilities, and the Elon Musk hype machine is at least partially to blame for that, probably more.

But this isn’t evidence one way or the other about the safety of Tesla’s FSD.

[–] Aopen@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 2 years ago

Are people upvoting this repost blindly or is this news truly new to them?

[–] n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca -3 points 2 years ago

Tesla numbers need to be taken with a grain of salt. There are so few drivers it is easy too easy for a few outliers to mess this up.