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[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Jimmy wales owns "Fandom," The ad-ridden, co-opted wiki that has deep hooks into twitch and is itself trying to be a social media platform.

Way to be part of the problem, Jimmy.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

He founded it, and it was bought out 6 years ago. Before the sale, that site was pretty awesome, and now it's crap. I wonder how much he's actually contributing to Fandom these days, he seems more interested in other projects.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I tried trust cafe around the same time I came here. I ended up falling off, specifically because it wasn't addicting.

So, his point here is well made, but in the saddest way possible.

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago

It's a social media platform made under Jimmy Wales' (creator of Wikipedia) direction.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I like it well enough but its not part of the federation. If it was I would use it as my primary fed home. Assuming it could pull in all content.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

From the Wikipedia page on the project, there's a quote from this Twitter thread from 2019, where he says he's potentially interested in adding native support. Hopefully that comes at some point, I'd be happy to try it out if it does.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

yeah im aware but its 2024 and it trust cafe rebrand was 2023 after launching not very much before that. Im not seein git as a driving interest and im not sure how he would add it unless he allowed users to add trunks which would actually be really great if done.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, that's a little unfortunate, then. Here's to hoping it does eventually get there 🤞 I'm just happy to see the decentralized, non-profit internet grow.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 4 months ago

total agreement there. better for it to be than for it not to be.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I personally don't care much about federation and think it unnecessarily complicates the user experience. I'm here because lemmy as a product is good enough, not because I value its connection to other instances.

I do think we need to get away from centralized services, but I personally think the federated approach won't scale well, at least the way it has been implemented due to the sheer amount of duplication of data.

I'm not going to avoid a product just because it isn't federated, I'm going to avoid a product because it's centralized.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 4 months ago

im game for a noncentralized system that works some other ways but trustcafe is just its own thing and therefore centralized. I do love maximum end user config though and trust cafe has rate thing which is great. right now I can block something or subscribe or leave be but with trust cafe I can bump someones rating up or down to see less or more but not always see or never see the stuff.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Dude you're like a decade late. You can't start warning us about the dangers of smoking when we already have stage 4 lung cancer and expected to make any difference whatsoever.

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I hear what you're saying here, but the parallel doesn't work. People were dying of stage 4 lung cancer for years before they finally put warning labels on the product.

Unfortunately, people like this are going to have to keep saying it over and over until the message takes hold. It will take years.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Telling people that smoking is bad for you took decades too. I think my analogy holds up okay dude

[–] asbestos@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago
[–] jamyang@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

An observation that is due by 20 years.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 4 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


TOKYO -- Wikipedia has become an essential online tool but as misinformation spreads rampantly on the internet, its founder Jimmy Wales tells Nikkei about the challenges the 23-year-old nonprofit encyclopedia faces in building a platform for the distribution of accurate information.

The advent of generative artificial intelligence further muddies the water, allowing bad actors to create highly convincing videos and audio recordings to perpetuate falsehoods.

Wales tells Nikkei about the strategies that Wikipedia employs to verify facts and enhance the credibility of its site.

Q: What challenges have you experienced in fighting against false statements, pursuing and ensuring accuracy, with Wikipedia allowing people to edit freely?

You can imagine scanning all of Wikipedia on a regular basis and looking for entries that are popular, but also have errors or bias to call to attention.

Now imagine an AI that can go to your mother ... can read all of her past social media posts, LinkedIn, find all information about, and then based on those, to craft a political message now.


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