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[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People here calling him all sorts of slurs are missing the point - people are conservative because they value their own money (even the potential of it) more than other humans.
Being Black and/or gay (or a woman, or disabled, or trans, or whatever marginalised group someone might belong to) doesn't make a person any less greedy or exploitative. You would wish it would make them more aware of the systems of oppression they face and who controls and benefits from them, but considering the quality of education and amount of propaganda and capitalism-serving socialisation we are all exposed to courtesy of said people who control and benefit from these systems, and the promises oppressors make to the tokens they recruit (the "good ones"), it isn't really at all surprising or confusing, and berating the guy as being "unintelligent" not only completely misses the reality of the situation (and therefore any possibility of resolving it), but is also flat out ableist.

You nailed it. The belief in "I got mine, f u" isn't tied to any sexual orientation or race.

It just doesn't work out for the minorities since most conservative-minded people are also xenophobes

I'd wager that these conservative minorities are probably xenophobes too

[–] justlookingfordragon@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

More and more relevant by every passing day ....

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have a hard time feeling bad for people who bring bad things upon themselves. What the hell did he think would happen? The group of people calling themselves conservatives have made it their primary goal to eliminate the gays and minorities, and someone who checks both of those boxes wants to become part of their group? It's like those idiots at national parks that try to pet the bears. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The local conservative party leader is gay... I think it's just that the members are too stupid to realize it or something and he just let's them say whatever they want so he can cling to power?

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wow, we’re at the point where gay people are able to participate in systemic discrimination against other minorities and also themselves.

LGBTQ+ rights have come so far 🥹

(this is all sarcasm)

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Oh for sure, he keeps making public appearances to complain about drag queens reading books to children

[–] Lophostemon@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago

Black, gay and also incidentally TOTAL FUCKING IDIOT.

Or perhaps he’s just reeeeeally into being abused. Really gets off on humiliation from a particular section of white boomers and their inbred single-digit IQ MAGA offspring.

Just to note that not all white boomers are MAGA. My dad, a white boomer, though heavily fucked with dementia now, was a solid left-wing Democratic his whole life.

[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is an article that is rewritten every Republican party convention for at least the last 40 fucking years.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I've got to wonder how your upbringing worked out when as a black and gay man you end up supporting trump. Over basically any alternative, including never voting and/or leaving the country entrirely. Both still far preferrable to subjecting yourself to the existential torture that is this, as per the article.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

So gut instinct: he’s probably a misogynist first and black and gay come after that. It may not be correct but holy hell as a lesbian it describes a lot of the gay male conservatives I’ve met.

The more nuanced potential is that people don’t like being put into boxes or perfectly matching stereotypes. Additionally many people can’t read between lines even when it’s obvious. Trump went very hard against immigrants and Black Lives Matter protesters, and he has white supremacists supporting him and a history of anti black prejudices, but he’s never said that he hates black people. Similarly he’s ranted and raved about trans people, and he allies with people who hate gay people, but his words are not explicitly against cis gay people. So if he wanted to be willfully ignorant to declare himself as the special good one who won’t be boxed in by your preconceived notions of what he should be, all he has to do is not read the obvious messages between the lines and hope they go away.

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

People are really good at supporting ideas that harm themselves.

Just see any country and any election ever. Hopefully they don't win but you will always have a significant minority wanting to create a shithole for everyone themselves included.

[–] snownyte@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

We call them - cynical jesters.

They offer no resolution, no recourse and no route to better ideas. It's just "My life sucks so because that my life sucks, I want everyone else's life to suck so I will make it so."

[–] Gamers_Mate@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When I see someone who is LGBT+ and or a minority support trump it reminds me of of the Association of German National Jews who supported Hitler before he got elected.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

it reminds me of of the Association of German National Jews

In other words, the people who did Ben Shapiro long before Ben Shapiro.

[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Well what a total fucking idiot.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I never thought the leopards would eat my face!

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Man lies down with dog, gets fleas.

[–] Spendrill@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't like the way that this metaphor blames dogs. This right here is more a case of 'Man lays down with Republican Party, gets chlamydia.'

[–] RobertOwnageJunior@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Man lays down with fleas, gets fleas.