Oh, good. Gnome gets more money.
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are you trying to say that this is a bad thing?
This but unironically. It's a very good thing.
This money would have been far better given to KDE instead of the assholes at Gnome.
How so? I miss the old gnome, but I have accepted gnome 3 for what it is. Kde was quite interesting for me back in 2012, but it didn't perform well with my old setup. What's new with kde? Id like to give it a try, but I'm too old to break my SO by having both gnome and kde on it.
The KDE guys have been on fire for the past two years. Between their theming, color selection, and session handling they've come a long ways. They've also implemented some gnome-only features such as the overview, albeit in a very optional way. As opposed to eliminating a panel and forcing you to use the overview to see what applications or windows you have open, or available to launch, it's just a window management tool instead of a UX paradigm.
Their wayland session is stable and also deals with xwayland in a very different way. If you set a custom scaling factor, the QT apps and GTK apps are talked to in a way that makes the same scaling factor consistent across all your applications, even under a wayland session with xwayland. The Gnome devs hand-wring about how the world has to be perfect before implementing an idea, where the KDE devs try something and then iterate if it's successful.
I am aware of the difference in philosophy taken by both Gnome and KDE, but would you mind elaborating on the 'assholes' bit?
- Calling the Arch Wiki contributor's clowns
- The public tantrum with System76 because of the poor attitudes on the part of the Gnome project
- The Gnome way: stop making shell extensions and contribute to the Shell or get fucked.
- The overall attitude of the devs regarding user opinions, resulting in the plethora of extensions available, and the tone deaf attitude regarding all of them.
- The world must be perfect before we do jack shit about fractional scaling, despite people moving to HiDPI/4K monitors.
Trundle on over to KDE-land, and you find a very different tone. They're not too proud to adopt paradigms that conflicted with core design principles if they're widely beloved (look at Overview as a prime example). Fractional scaling is miles ahead of Gnome in functionality and performance impact, solved in both X11 and elegantly in Wayland so that xwayland apps have a hook to get correct DPI info without looking blurry. The deep customizations available have negated the need for much of their session modifications, as they rapidly adopt good ideas (floating panels anyone? Ahh yes, Plasma has got you).
They're also extremely nimble when it comes to changing course on their backend. They went from having a buggy Wayland session to having the most stable one by far. They also take criticism far better, either taking it in stride or recognizing then they did something off-base.
Gnome can go to hell, and fuck the stupid ass GTK which is objectively inferior to QT. Redhat can nibble on my shit too for all I care.
I really do wish governments invested more in open source. If it's a generic thing like an operating system that the public could benefit from at large, they would be doing the public a service.
Edit: Germany does it again!
that would be a sound investment and we can't have that, the government must focus on actively detrimental infrastructure projects to put money in the pockets of rich people.
Cool. Now how about image thumbnail in the file picker. I mean seriously...
Its there now.
GNOME is well deserving as the most polished and optimally performant DE. GNOME is so good, Windows 11 copied its workflow, layouts and even the taskbar right-click menu with 23H2.
and optimally performant DE
Except it's the worst DE in terms of performance. Using KDE instead of Gnome made a big difference in my weaker laptop.
GNOME is the best performing modern DE outside of lightweight nice DEs. KDE is by far the worst alongside Deepin. KDE is so crap, I had to turn off all the animations and compositor to bring CPU usage from 70 to 10-15%. This was a stock Debian 12 KDE setup on i5-7200U. GNOME in comparison idles at 1-2%, max 3%. XFCE and LXQt sit around 0.5-1%.
KDE is an absolute mess and is a hobbyist DE in comparison to the professional GNOME.
GNOME is the best performing modern DE outside of lightweight nice DEs.
This is straight up not true, GNOME is a memory hog and uses almost twice as much as KDE. I'm idling ~4% CPU usage on an i5 7300HQ, which is just barely better than yours. There's a reason the Steam Deck opted to use KDE and not Gnome.
KDE is an absolute mess and is a hobbyist DE in comparison to the professional GNOME.
As someone who used gnome for two years, hell no. Gnome is trying too hard to be minimalist and is lacking basic features that you have to use extensions for. Extensions which, by the way, break each update and have their own bugs. I also had to use gnome tweaks for basic crap like disabling mouse acceleration. KDE is a much more polished experience for people who actually use computers, but gnome is okay if you're just looking for something simple that looks smooth.
GNOME is a memory hog and uses almost twice as much as KDE
It is unfortunate that every GNOME critic lives in 2015, and stick to those unhinged biases.
Steam Deck's decision to use KDE has nothing to do with performance, but with customisation of UI, which is also why they use custom compiled Arch to modify every nook and corner of what Deck runs.
7300HQ has about 1.7-2x the performance of 7200U, according to PassMark. https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/2922vs2865/Intel-i5-7300HQ-vs-Intel-i5-7200U
KDE is a much more polished experience for people who actually use computers, but gnome is okay if you’re just looking for something simple that looks smooth.
Its cool and hipster to be delusional, but when things get professional and you want stability and performance, GNOME is unbeatable. Nobody in the real world cares about the fancy one zillion features of KDE outside hipster hobbyists.