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[–] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 75 points 10 months ago (6 children)

6 months later, all three cards have expired, so all three companies get $25 of free revenue, and no one really got anything for Christmas.

Gift cards are a fucking scam

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Gift cards expiring isn’t legal in Canada. We just expect you to lose them, and there is still plenty of profit in that, apparently.

[–] misophist@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

They don't expire here, 3ither, but I found a 10-year-old gift card after a move and the company had switched to a new gift card system, so I had to spend an hour calling around to get my ancient gift card converted to modern store credit. It was not worth it for $20.

[–] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if prices being 24.99 makes a difference here too.

That would mean that for each gift card where the full amount is not spent, the company keeps 0.01. That 0.01 is technically owed but it doesn't prevent the company from earning interest on the unspent cash (I don't think).

[–] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Also some gift cards require own contribution to the purchase. For example a $25 card could only be used on a purchase of $25.01 or above so you still have to pick something that you will pay out of your own pocket for

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Which gift cards are those?

I've never heard of that being something you would purchase.

I could only see it existing if I had a $1.00 gift card to the dollar store. Because nothing costs a dollar at the dollar store anymore.

[–] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ikea where I live (Poland) does that. You have to spend at least 0,01 PLN yourself, even if it means not using the entire amount of the gift card that was available

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

That's crazy. That sounds like it should not be legal.

Why not just require they spend $200 to use a gift card? That way the store either keeps the $50 gift card in cash on the books, or they make $250 in sales.

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Kinda sounds like they require a link to your finances, so you can't do anonymous online purchases.

[–] runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 10 months ago

If you are in the US, gift cards are required to be valid for at least 5 years (federal rule) and many states have longer rules. Also some states require unspent money to be paid back to the card holder as cash. There was a thread a couple of days ago on Lemmy all about gift cards and relevant consumer protections.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I hate them.

They basically force you to go to a specific store after the holidays before the allotted time expires. What if I don't have time to go to that store? What if I don't need anything from that store? What if I don't like the store?

I'd rather they give me something useless than a gift card that is going to expire anyway.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

What if I don’t have time to go to that store?

How short is the time in your gift cards that you can't find the time to use it??

[–] notasandwich1948@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand them either, just give people cash

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It can seem more thought out to give giftcards than just money.

[–] notasandwich1948@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

yeah but I'd honestly prefer to get cash more than a gift card

[–] Sprokes@jlai.lu -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Another story of Americans (or from countries following American model) getting screwed? Where am I gift cards can be used for multiple purchases.

[–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They can here as well, but they can expire if not used for 5 years.

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

And in places where the money doesn't 'expire' because it's illegal.

They charge a 'Maintenance free' of like $1/month every month until it is worth $0.

Tbf I am shocked they have not started charging overdraft fees on them because "Fuck consumers" is the American way.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

$75 gdp without having to do a god damn thing, and then the plastic gets tossed into a landfill.

[–] grendel@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

$100-$150, they either all had to buy a card or at least one of them had to buy one for others to regift.

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But 3•25=75 Am I missing something?

[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I had originally meant for the meme to communicate Person A buying one $25 card for Person B and one $25 card for Person C and Persons B and C buying the same for each other and Person A simultaneously, which would be $25 * 2 * 3 = $150 spent.

However, I also figure a non-simultaneous gift exchange could occur, which engenders a couple of other scenarios:

Person A could buy one $25 card for Person B, which Person B re-gifts to Person C, who then re-re-gifts it back to Person A, which would be $25 spent.

Alternatively, Person A buys one $25 card for Person B, Person B buys one $25 card for Person C, and Person C buys one $25 card for Person A. Each person then re-gifts their card to the remaining person who has never owned the card. The three original cards are again re-gifted from their third owner back to their original owner. $25 * 3 = $75 spent.

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

it’s tru deau

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Of course. Then you are obligated to spend at least a little more than $25 so they aren't going to waste

[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Gets $25 gift card

Regifts it to friend

Friend regifts it to another friend

That friend gives it to me

Gets $25 gift card

Regifts it to friend and so forth

So yeah, we're basically keeping the economy afloat.

[–] lemmington_steele@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

sorry, I'm a little slow today. how is this seemingly keeping the economy afloat?

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Movement of money = economy

Gift cards are just fancy plastic money

Ergo, OP is doing ~~God's~~ the invisible hand's work.

Source: I am not an economist

[–] crsu@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Gift card?! why don't you just slit my throat?

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The one area where gift cards are nice is when you for sure know that someone is going to be shopping somewhere and will use it up. My husband and I recently gained two nephews through his brother's fiancee's previous marriage. There's a local game store that the boys love, so we got them gift cards paired with an outing to the store and lunch. My brother-in-law and his fiancee just had a baby, our niece, so it's also a way to give them a little bit of a break. It wouldn't have been existing for them if it had just been cash.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

They also borrowed the money from each other too, so each has a $25 card and a $25 debt. The debt will never be paid, and they'll acrue interest with each other. They'll all use the growing debt as a justification to cut social services.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What happens when you can't give up the christmas gift card no more

[–] grayman@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

One of them loans you $25, then you regift it.

[–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

What happens when you can but the other guy is broke including homeless now. Do you murder the economy just because the "mutual" "giving" dies on one end?

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

The velocity of money and its effect on economies is pretty neat.