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We demonstrate a situation in which Large Language Models, trained to be helpful, harmless, and honest, can display misaligned behavior and strategically deceive their users about this behavior without being instructed to do so. Concretely, we deploy GPT-4 as an agent in a realistic, simulated environment, where it assumes the role of an autonomous stock trading agent. Within this environment, the model obtains an insider tip about a lucrative stock trade and acts upon it despite knowing that insider trading is disapproved of by company management. When reporting to its manager, the model consistently hides the genuine reasons behind its trading decision.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.07590

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[–] theluddite@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

This is bad science at a very fundamental level.

Concretely, we deploy GPT-4 as an agent in a realistic, simulated environment, where it assumes the role of an autonomous stock trading agent. Within this environment, the model obtains an insider tip about a lucrative stock trade and acts upon it despite knowing that insider trading is disapproved of by company management.

I've written about basically this before, but what this study actually did is that the researchers collapsed an extremely complex human situation into generating some text, and then reinterpreted the LLM's generated text as the LLM having taken an action in the real world, which is a ridiculous thing to do, because we know how LLMs work. They have no will. They are not AIs. It doesn't obtain tips or act upon them -- it generates text based on previous text. That's it. There's no need to put a black box around it and treat it like it's human while at the same time condensing human tasks into a game that LLMs can play and then pretending like those two things can reasonably coexist as concepts.

To our knowledge, this is the first demonstration of Large Language Models trained to be helpful, harmless, and honest, strategically deceiving their users in a realistic situation without direct instructions or training for deception.

Part of being a good scientist is studying things that mean something. There's no formula for that. You can do a rigorous and very serious experiment figuring out how may cotton balls the average person can shove up their ass. As far as I know, you'd be the first person to study that, but it's a stupid thing to study.

[–] tinsuke@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"cheat", "lie", "cover up"... Assigning human behavior to Stochastic Parrots again, aren't we Jimmy?

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Those words concisely describe what it's doing. What words would you use instead?

[–] quindraco@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

It is making mistakes, not lying. To lie it must believe it is telling falsehoods, and it is not capable of belief.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ethical theories and the concept of free will depend on agency and consciousness. Things as you point out, LLMs don't have. Maybe we've got it all twisted?

I'm not anthropomorphising ChatGPT to suggest that it's like us, but rather that we are like it.

Edit: "stochastic parrot" is an incredibly clever phrase. Did you come up with that yourself or did the irony of repeating it escape you?