I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux-

[–] grue@lemmy.world 50 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's the problem, though: a lot of it isn't GNU, specifically because GNU stuff is GPLv3 and would thus stop the smart TV and IoT device makers from Tivoizing everything all to Hell. Most of that stuff is running bastardized Linux, not GNU/Linux!

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

There are a number of Linux distributions that do not have a GNU user space, so no.

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[–] Frog@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 months ago

Thank you Mr. Stallman!

[–] silkroadtraveler@lemmy.today 14 points 3 months ago

A name is just a simple reference to a system composed of interrelated and essential OS components: Kernel, windowing system, networking tools, virtual memory, user interfaces, the list goes on…

Yes GNU is an essential suite of tools but so is X (or Wayland) and many other unnamed yet critical subsystems.

Now GPL licensing on the other hand, THAT is a foundational precept to FOSS that deserves sole credit back to a single project.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 80 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I was talking to my dad about my job and how people don't know how to use Linux. He said "Yeah, nobody uses that UNIX stuff anymore."

Then I pointed out that his phone and his computer both run flavors of UNIX, since he's been using Apple products since I made him switch by not supporting his issues with Windows, and that most of the websites and apps he's using are running Linux on the backend.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well, he is correct. Linux is not UNIX. It is UNIX-like system. And Android is abomination.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think macOS is actually Unix certified. It at least was at one point.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

At one point many years ago. BSD is true UNIX btw.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I looked it up. macOS is still unix certified.

BSD is usually not unix certified, so has to refer to itself as unix like.

What is and isn't unix is kind of up to what definition you're working with (pedigree, legally, practically).

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[–] HauntedBucket@lemm.ee 45 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Ha, imagine an alternate universe where crowdstrike took down people's refrigerators.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

That’s how we save Pied Piper.

https://youtu.be/BnKpNVHw-TQ

[–] furycd001@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 months ago

That would be so funny 😂

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 8 points 3 months ago

A chilling thought.

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[–] superkret@feddit.org 36 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Lots of routers are BSD.

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yep.

I came here to make a 'my router uses BSD btw' joke.

PfSense!

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Opnsense

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 6 points 3 months ago

OPNsense > pfsense

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[–] furycd001@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago

Fair point....

[–] humbletightband@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Actually it's all Java

[–] coffeejoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Oracle wishes. We’re smarter than that.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago

Sun shines. No, other Sun.

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[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nobody uses Linux guys, that shits for nerds

[–] frankgrimeszz@lemmy.world 44 points 3 months ago (2 children)

True. I use arch btw

[–] verstra@programming.dev 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Woah, you are old. I use nixos btw

[–] superkret@feddit.org 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Woah, you are young. I use Slackware btw

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[–] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Yikes with all the nix drama going on?

I use a custom distro dixos btw

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[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Lol nerd

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I got in trouble in a discussion about the most popular Linux distro when I said it's obviously Android.

[–] tacofox@lemm.ee 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Jim: “what’s your favorite district” Mike: “Android of course” Jim:

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

LOL Favourite? Jury is out. Most popular? Android all the way.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thats like saying your favorite type of cheese is American, sure its technically cheese but its so processed and removed from cheese that its just not the same as mozzarella.

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[–] unfnknblvbl@beehaw.org 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I am constantly amused about how "next year" has been "the year of Linux on the desktop" for 20+ years. Meanwhile, Linux & BSD have pretty much completely taken over the whole world except the desktop in that same time.

[–] humbletightband@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You want Microsoft to go out of business, you monster?

[–] lengau@midwest.social 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yes

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[–] loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Routers often run on BSD

[–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

Wish they didn't. DIY opnsense/pfsense boxes are much harder for finding compatible NICs because they're on BSD. Conversely, used enterprise-level NICs often have better drivers on Linux than Windows.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Huh, I don't follow supercomputers very often. I didn't realize in the last 10 years UNIX dropped off the map of supercomputers entirely in favor of Linux.

Pretty cool.

[–] Z3k3@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I worked in resales for super computers about 10 yrs ago. For x86 based designs we flogged red hat

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The ones that aren’t BSD-based, anyway, like for instance pfSense.

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Or MacOS, or the PlayStation OS.

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[–] marcos@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And 4.5% of the desktops.

At this rate it should reach 25% of them by 2043.

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[–] knightly@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

[–] zongor@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If you don’t want to install Linux, You should install plan9

[–] knightly@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I am almost exclusively one of those Linux weirdos. The only non-Linux computer touching I do is for work. XD

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Same. Everytime I use my work laptop with Windows I feel like a boomer trying to figure out how it works and complaining about how ugly the UI is to me now.

[–] knightly@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I'm amazed at how long it takes to boot up, too. Especially after the login screen, it's like 5 minutes from entering my password to the company VPN app finally starting up in the background.

Meanwhile my 8 year old desktop (I use Arch, btw) takes all of 20 seconds, including both the login and the grub menu.

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[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 7 points 3 months ago

Now now, some of it is windows ce still. Amazingly

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