Meshtastic is neat and I always contemplate building a node for fun. However, I've yet to see many practical uses for it beyond maybe texting while hiking.
this post was submitted on 06 Aug 2024
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It's best use is alternative communications in a disaster, where the mobile network is affected. Or if a dictator decides to shut it off during a protest.
Overall it could work well as a communications means for activists in street protests since these often overload networks by sheer volume of users concentrated in one spot.
Seems like this could be very useful if in a country with poor communication systems or a wartorn area. Also worth saving (print it out perhaps) if in the US and Trump becomes king.
Well I had many blogs about how to add sensors etc. Mostly I personally use it as walkie talkie but also I have seen people use it as a tracker for pets, and motion sensors at home maybe. I use it for temp sensor in each room in a handheld and I will take out for hikes etc.
I don't think I understand its purpose. It's a shared wireless communication network for text messages only? So, like, sms-only that is completely independent of the main grid?
Pretty much, yes. It does have some tiny file share capability IIRC (don’t trust me on this) but it’s pretty much just an off grid text based communication platform you connect to with your phone and Bluetooth. Can be extremely long range depending on terrain (line of sight is important)
Can it be used to set up a grid with other people? Kind of like creating put own off-grid grid?
Isn't that the definition of off-grid?
The routing is simple. Every node repeats everything it hears. A message goes out with a counter - defaults at 3, maximum 7. Every time it's repeated the counter is decremented. At 0 it won't be repeated any more.
You can DM nodes you've seen. You can create your own encrypted channels with a pre-shared key. You can link meshes over the internet through MQTT if you have an internet connected node on each mesh.
Isn’t that the definition of off-grid?
Yeah, but not only. For example, I can build a private wifi network, and have my friends join their phones to it. Some bloke across the yard can open his own network, but the two networks will not communicate with each other. The two networks are off-grid, but are independent of each other.
This meshtastic thing sounds awesome! Crowd sourced off-grid network.
For a beginner:
- Buy something like this all in one system: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BL7B47DR?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
- Flash meshtastic on it
- Download the app (or connect it directly to the computer) and your done!
Its pretty easy to get into. Just letting you know, its mostly just a pager. A self hosted pager, but a pager none-the-less.
How do you find people to talk to?
Honestly a bit of war-driving, they pick up the others and auto-populate the info. You can also go here: https://meshmap.net/ and look for your area.
We also have a local meetup for meshtastic that meets periodically. Its been fun.
So you just get a list of who's in range?
A list and a map to those who enable gps.
Dont buy those kits. They are pretty overpriced and come with a shitty antenna and no battery
In my local area, we were able to get a mile or so with line of sight. And the price (less than 50 for 2) without soldering is a pretty good deal for a beginner. It also comes with a case.
You can also get the https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CTXL61LY?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details or add in a battery later on. Its meant to be a beginners kit because you an check to see if it works easily and its upgrade-able in almost all parts. We have close to 20 members in our local group (its a whole lot of fun) and almost everyone starts with one of these.
What do you recommend for beginners?
Oops, didnt realise that price is for 2. Pretty good deal in that case
Its all good.
Its more for testing it out to make sure it works. But yeah I have an outdoor one and an indoor one. So I can message and receive pretty easy plus help the local network.