It could literally be a minute wait & I still wouldn't use Chrome.
this post was submitted on 20 Nov 2023
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Doesn't this break competition laws?
Couldn't Google/YouTube be sued over this?
Microsoft got repeatedly hit over this kind of shenanigans in MSIE during and after the anti-trust lawsuit.
Sadly, that was 20 years ago. I'm not having much faith in American justice system doing anything about this nowadays.
Not that I think Google is a great company, but why is this on its own proof of anything based on this single persons video evidence? In my single person test I don't see that 5 second delay when using Firefox and browsing around Youtube. Seems far more likely to be an issue with this persons browser setup than something Google did to me.
And this is precisely why they use an A/B architecture to implement these sorts of changes. "It's not happening on mine, must be in your setup." delays/prevents people from recognizing the bad behavior, and instead of them being called out on it or forced to behave properly, the users they abuse just give up and switch back to Chrome because it "works better", then the A/B lists are shuffled again and the process repeats.
Or, they could use an A/B architecture because it makes good design sense when you are dealing with a change that will impact millions/billions of people. But the conspiracy theory's sure are a lot more fun to wallow in I will admit.
"Conspiracy theory is sure are a lot more fun to wallow in". Did you miss the recent youtube adblock shenanigans? Do you think google is your friend? Are you aware discord is google adservices integrated? Are you under the impression google wouldn't do something like this to leverage more data from people using one of their sites? Are you unfamiliar with the recent and upcoming OTHER changes to make chrome less friendly? Do you know about google AMP? You're defending a corporation and not an individual here, really take time to consider what you're calling conspiracy theory is (the plural is theories)
A company doing shitty things does not mean everything you don't like that comes out of them is some mustache twirling villain plot. You should spend more time in the real world and less time in the Lemmy/Reddit echo chamber.
I feel compelled to come back to this thread and eat my crow. Apparently they were doing it to fuck with people, just not Firefox people specifically,lol.
I feel compelled to come back to this thread and eat my crow.
Thank you for doing this. If more people owned up to their mistakes and corrected them, things would be a lot better.
Or, they could use an A/B architecture because it makes good design sense when you are dealing with a change that will impact millions/billions of people.
Both could be true though.
Lately (few months) YouTube will not load whatsoever on my android phone nor tablet very often, activating a VPN fixes it instantly. Using basic YouTube app
Likely just a network-related issue
Using a VPN on a shitty network won't magically make your network connection better.
It is possible. Maybe the peering from his ISP to YouTube is shit/ overloaded. That was an issue for Deutsche Telekom for a few years because Telekom didn't want to pay for better peering. With a VPN it is possible to get good peering to your ISP and YouTube and in return faster load speeds.
No, but it does affect what route your traffic goes through.
I wonder how long it'll be before google gets sued for their anti-competitive behavior.
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Let's remember, fellas, that big tech is not a disease that needs to be eradicated. Let us not forget that Google is a legitimate corporation, not merely a group of professional stalkers. And let's be clear: obviously you are the crazy ones for worrying about this, naturally...
Pardon my jest; I was merely echoing the absurdities often heard.
Maybe just maybe it's time we stop with this garbage and actually stop using their services. Nothing will change if we keep using their services.
The most direct and effective strategy to inspire reform in their practices is to stop using of their platforms. Each time we use a service from Google or any similar big tech entity, we inadvertently endorse their methods.
YOU hold the power to change them by using FOSS alternatives instead.
Yes, but the problem is the convenience.
Google has made their services convenient, which is why everyone I like to watch content of posts their stuff on YouTube. Both alternive websites and the content on them is often of inferior quality and difficult to find.
Actually, the main problem isn't that they've made their services convenient. Most of them are inconvenient in multiple ways.
The really big problem, the absolutely INSIDIOUS shit is how extremely inconvenient they've made using alternatives.
Example: Google the search engine straight up sucks from an end user perspective now. Yet because it's where over 90% of all search engine searches happen, it's MORE inconvenient to use any other one, no matter how much better the algorithms and what have you.
Same with YouTube: the user experience becomes worse and worse, but since it has a de facto near-monopoly of certain types of content from certain creators, best you can do is a custom frontend. Which they're of course trying to make impossible ever since they removed the "Don't" from their original informal slogan.
Insidious
A good plug to use Invidious for sure, intentional or not.
Unintentional but very much welcomed 😁
Ah, I was wondering why YouTube was taking so long to load recently. I thought it was just because their code was shit, and it turns out I was right, but not in the way I thought.
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Fuck Google