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• Steve Jobs faked full signal strength and swapped devices during the first iPhone demo due to fragile prototypes and bug-riddled software.

• Engineers got drunk during the presentation to calm their nerves.

• Despite the challenges, Jobs successfully completed the 90-minute demonstration without any noticeable issues.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And look where he is now. Dead. Lesson learned.

[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's where all of us are headed. What's the lesson?

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

A fruitarian diet won't help you against pancreatic cancer.

Or, in other words, you can't fight P.C. with apples.

[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

This is old news, and perfectly normal for stage work.

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Okay, how are we all seeing some moral downfall of Steve Jobs here? I mean... Perhaps we should just see what's shown at such events realistically. I mean, who wouldn't show their product from the best side possible? So they faked some reception. Of course they want younto see the "optimal case", right? Same goes for swapping Devices in case of some failure. When they show their device, they want to show what it will be like, so they will not let you see a ton of bugs that are about to be fixed for the release anyway.

Besides: they cannot deceptively, promise you fake stuff and people will be lead into erroneous decisions by them. Quite the opposite. Think about it: anyone who actually watches those presentations is not your standard customer, right? They'll be invested or knowledgeable anyway. So if they promise you utter bullshit, people will notice your lies immediately. Tests will chide you for it, people will distrust you, sales will go down. So don't assume that any beautification of the product at such presentations will lead poor, uninformed customers to buy the thing. Quite the opposite. They will more likely not hear too much about the presentation until the "they lied!" Cries start.

[–] rodolfo@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

no downfall for sj, pretty standard behavior from him. it was absolutely normal for him to deceive people. as for all billionaires. how do you think they make those riches?

[–] SapphironZA@lemmings.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You got to say he was a master bullshitter, but he had some miracle workers engineers that made it happen.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one -1 points 11 months ago

In my career, I’ve learnt the hard way that every crowning achievement starts with a bullshitter being cursed by a bunch of engineers - the very same engineers who years later laud the bullshitter as the person with the tenacity to drive them to achieve greatness.

[–] aeronmelon@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Calling the stage units prototypes is being nice. The reality was that at that point the iPhone had barely gotten to a proof of concept stage. Months before this event, the developers were still using a giant desktop tower to simulate the phone's hardware.

That the photos of the phone were real and not concept art, that the stage units weren't just unusable rubber dummies was a magic trick itself.

When the developers revealed years later that the iPhone presentation (just the presentation, not even the actual launch) was a make or break moment for the company, they absolutely were not kidding.

And then they went from "should not even be working" test units to fully functional production units in six months!

Whatever your opinion of Jobs or Apple, credit where credit is due.

[–] nyar@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

To the engineers.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hey... at least the ruse worked...

[–] Something_Complex@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That was on him for going out the script. He could have made a cult like Apple.

Instead he did whatever the hell this is

[–] 4z01235@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

Somehow it still has a cult like Apple

[–] doublejay1999@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

Well that’s where I’ve been going wrong in my career. I have worked for 2 startup companies, who faked product demos, in software.

I’d come from corporate background, where it was all fairly standard off the shelf software we sold and implemented. Not above the odd white lie, but the products could do what they claimed.

In the startups, the first occasion I did a presentation on a laptop. I was new to the company, had a couple of days training. The demo went great, the client loved it. Since I would also be managing the systems integration, I asked the devs how exactly x talked to y - and they said it didn’t yet, I’d just shown a simulation. Looking back I was naive, but I quit at the end of the week . I had no idea it was not uncommon.

I think people outside tech have no idea how common place this is.