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Hey guys, I just had a curiosity on the multiple ways of storaging stuff and how long would that hold, take backing it up to a newer storage after some years out of the table.

So how did this come in my mind, I was just reminiscing about how I used to play games with inserting a CD or Cartridge onto the device and how I miss that flavour.

I would like to do it again, I already like having my games dependancy free (praise mr goldmountain), and I am saving up some money to spend on hoarding possibilities. I would like to know what would have the longest storage life, would burning games into bluray discs be too unhinged or is something I am missing?

Thanks in advance in helping me out witht his brainstorm.

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[–] Helix@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Contrary to what people suggested, I would advise against optical discs or tapes and would go with HDDs you check every few months. They don't rot like optical media, the only thing you have to worry about are the motor spindles getting stuck and other mechanical failures.

It will also be the cheapest option. With tapes you need expensive drives and they change the version every few years. Tapes only are better if you store hundreds or thousands of TiB of data.

Which data so you want to save? Mostly games and media? If so, consider giving them to your friends and family to copy and enjoy, which some people call a 'friend backup'.

[–] ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com 1 points 11 months ago

All form of storage rot, just at varying rates and likelihood of failure after X years. Keeping the data active and checked is the only way to guarantee it will survive over time. But multiple copies across formats will probably be good enough for 99% of cases.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl -1 points 1 year ago

Most recent iteration of optical media (Blu Ray) doesn't rot. Actually older media didn't rot either if stored properly. I still have 20yr old CDs and DVDs that are usable. And if you're going to let something sit in moisture or dust or whatever, a HDD wont fair that well either.

[–] littlemisskittn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There’s a rule I was always told in A+. Either a hard drive is going to last you less than a year or it’s gonna last you five. Usually any problems with a hard drive you’ll see right away. However after the third year is when I’d start checking the drive. There are tools out there that can let you know when a drive is in the caution level and that’s when you should think about replacement. I’ve had hard drives like one I have to replace soon last me eight years with constant use as a Plex drive.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

I didn't know that was a thing. I just upgraded to a new pc but before my old hhd was nearly 14 years old. I'm still using it as a back up but wasn't aware they could fail so quickly. I should get a new one for backups.

[–] ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Discs aren't very suitable for long term storage. Really the only thing truly suited for long term storage of digital media is archival tape. Which isn't cheap or accessible. The only accessible solution is to keep it alive in a raid and keep rebuilding as disks fail over the years.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Might be an option, but I bet these things aren't cheap.

I still backup on DVDs, make multiple copies so one doesn't go bad. In adition, I also have a storage, so I think I'm good.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Get Blu Ray discs from a reputable brand (Verbatim, Sony). They were designed to be a lot more resilient than DVDs. Nothing wrong with DVDs either btw, if the smaller size doesn't bother you, just make sure they're stored properly either way.

[–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

BR discs are still very expensive and will most probably be for a very long time. So are the BR drives. That's why I still use DVDs.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Over here a 25 GB BD-R is about 60 cents USD and a 4.7 GB DVD-R is 30 cents so it makes sense to use Blu Ray.

BR drives are more expensive than DVD drives, true, but I consider it a good investment.

[–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

Here, 25GB BR is about $4. DVDs are about $0.20.