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[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

Marxism is correct.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

How it feels being a liberal who only reads current headlines

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thinking you are always right is one of the surest signs you've fallen down a propaganda rabbithole.

[–] antmzo220@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thinking you are always right is one of the surest signs you've fallen down a propaganda rabbithole.

What? ...

Do you think you're wrong about things and not change your opinion to be the right one?

This makes no sense.

You should always strive to be right.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Strive, yes. But thinking you've already arrived at such perfection indicates a fundamental weakness in critical thinking.

[–] antmzo220@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Exaggerative jokes are illegal in "memes"?

Dialectical and historical materialism is, in my opinion, the best way to analyze the world and therefore leads to the proper conclusion quite often. Definitely more often than other ideologies/ways of examining things.

In comparison to people who follow other ways of examining things we are "always right", this doesn't mean I truly think following DiMat makes you omniscient.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The analytical tools of Marxism-Leninism do make it easier for Marxist-Leninists to be correct. If you disagree with that, you should probably read Marx, Engels, and Lenin.

[–] antmzo220@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I agree. He made great contributions to theory. Foundations of Leninism is great - and he's a really good writer on top of it. Unsurprising as he was a voracious reader of Marxist theory.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Dialectical and Historical Materialism is a good text as well as Marxism and the National Question. Stalin's writing style is surprisingly gentle and clear, as opposed to Marx's literary style, Engels' flowery style, Lenin's angry shitposter style, or Mao's straightforward and direct style.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I love Stalin's writings style. That's a great breakdown. Dialectic and Historical Materislism is the best explanation of those concepts.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

I actually prefer Politzer's Elementary Principles of Philosophy, it helped me greatly with comprehending dialectical and historical materialism. Dialectical and Historical Materialism is good, but Elementary Principles of Philosophy breaks the subject into easily digestible building blocks.

[–] antmzo220@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Dialectical and historical materialism is, in my opinion, one of the best texts for an introduction to Marxism-leninism.

Id read Some of the other more recommended stuff like Principles of Communism, the Manifesto, etc and had vague ideations.

But I found that text on my own while looking into "Stalinism" and it just made everything "click".

Read Stalin 🗿

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

I will always push Politzer's Elementary Principles of Philosophy whenever Dialectical and Historical Materialism is brought up. I prefer it over Dialectical and Historical Materialism greatly, it is more in-depth and breaks the subject down into smaller bites.

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[–] CaptainKickass@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

When you live in an echo chamber

[–] Vuraniute@thelemmy.club 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

when you see the world in black and white:

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago

Today I learned Marxism is seeing the world in black and white. No color!

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago (22 children)

Except when you peddle antisemitic tropes about the US government being controlled by Israel when the OPPOSITE is true. Fuck you dude. You are a danger to the movements you purportedly support.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The US created Israel and now we fund them and their genocide endlessly, but AIPAC money also permeates US politics. It’s a wild web of bullshit. Idk how any of that is antisemitic though. The only part I see as antisemitic was when the US and Britain didn’t want to take the Jewish diaspora themselves.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Idk how any of that is antisemitic though

Saying that the US - the global imperialist hegemon - is controlled by Isreal, on top of being ridiculous, is deeply antisemitic.

It plays into the trope of Jews control everything. It handwaves every blatantly obvious reality about the relationship between the US and Isreal and says "Yup that colonial apendage is the real master of the US, because Jews."

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Saying that the US - the global imperialist hegemon - is controlled by Isreal, on top of being ridiculous, is deeply antisemitic.

Isn't that an Israeli talking point tho, that any criticism of them is anti-semitic, equating any criticism of the zionist project as anti-semitic? Seems like both white-supremacists (who want to see an evil jewish cabal controlling everything), and Israel (who want their state to be equated with judaism), agree on that equation, even though they're on opposite sides.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Isreal hides behind all of semitism as a human shield, so it makes sense that of the criticisms they label antisemitic (all of them) that some of them actually would be. It's understandable (not good or tolerable but also not an anomaly) that given the hideously complicated level of intertwining machinery between our two occupation governments, someone without a materialist grounding in the subject could come to confuse who controls who, especially someone who's grown up marinating in casually fascist explanations for the state of the world like most of us did

I just realized that it kind of sounds like I was implying you don't know materialism so I wanna clarify that I'm talking about a hypothetical rando, I know you're Dessalines lmao

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

Exactly. Im a stickler on this point because I've had to go through conversations with left leaning jewish friends who still have some lingering brainworms. It matters to understand what is actual antisemitism. The zionist will not act in good faith - so it's even more important for us to understand the difference

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Isn't that an Israeli talking point tho, that any criticism of them is anti-semitic, equating any criticism of the zionist project as anti-semitic?

No. What I'm saying is that specifically believing the US is controlled by Isreal - that the US is subordinate to Isreal - that is an antisemitic belief (on top of being ridiculous). That's not an isreali talking point. Believing that is not helping combat zionism - it helps it.

I'm anti-zionist. That's why its very important to me to point out this antisemitic belief because its detrimental to the cause of anti-zionism.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That makes sense. Its a very weird thing to think anyway, that the most powerful country in history is somehow controlled by a vassal state they helped create, and who's only able to continue existing due to US support.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yep, it's a hand-washing of the US's role in Zionism. The consequence of this line of thinking is that the US is merely being used, it sides with the Imperialist Hegemon against its vassal, excusing Imperalism.

It's the anti-Zionist Liberal interpretation, excusing the Empire for the deeds its Vassal commits.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's the anti-Zionist Liberal interpretation, excusing the Empire for the deeds its Vassal commits.

Nailed it. They need to excuse the US and they get to do it in a racist way. Liberal win-win

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[–] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

~~I'm out of the loop. Did OP pull that shit in a post or comment somewhere?~~ Nvm, I just looked through their post history and they're big on the ZOG shit.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

See the comment right below where another dipshit is claiming the US gov is controlled by Israel and AIPAC.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

Oof, that's a problematic reading of Zionism. Sucks to see

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Odd that your comments were moderated and ZOG is allowed to spread.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What they were? Not surprised really since the mods asside from Dessalines here are pretty shit.

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

in this thread,

https://lemmy.ml/post/20530766

all but one of your posts has been moderated. No issues with the ZOG conspiracy of course.

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[–] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm a tankie and I hate this meme.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

Yeah, if we look at Greek myths, we're more like Cassandra than Atlas.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Uhh... Sure.

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